【键盘侠】小卡中距离无解|他是比赛风格最像乔丹的现役球员？

[Haberstroh] Kawhi Leonard is shooting 24 of 30 (80%) on shots between 10-14 feet in the playoffs. . These are better than layups for him. It's insane.

NBC体育记者Tom Haberstroh日前发推表示：“卡哇伊-莱昂纳德今年季后赛在10到14码之间，出手30次命中24球（80%命中率）。太疯狂了，这个杀招对他而言比上篮更管用。”

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[–][MIL] D.J. Wilson RecalcitrantDuck 839 指標 12小時前

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a player take as few tough shots as Kawhi. Every possession he gets to his spot and takes exactly the shot he wants, it’s insane. If he wants to take a 10 foot jumper, nobody in the league can stop him from getting a good look

雄鹿球迷：我这辈子还从未见过哪个球员出手的高难度投篮有小卡这么少。他每个回合都能占到有利身位，刚好都是他想要的出手感觉。太了不起了。如果他想要一记10码位的跳投，联盟里没人可以在他出手前进行有效干扰。

[–][TOR] Pascal Siakam MrGrieves- 10 指標 6小時前

I think it helps most D's are designed these days to limit 3's and layups and live with the midrange.

But Kawhi is so damn smooth I know it's going in everytime he lets it go from 12 feet.

Man is designed to feast in the playoffs, he's a walking 30 points.

猛龙球迷：现如今联盟里的大部分防守部署主要针对三分和上篮，我觉得这是有益于小卡的，而且他本身就是靠中距离吃饭的。

不过小卡的手感太特么丝滑了，只要他在12码出手，我就觉得这球有了。

这家伙就是为季后赛大杀特杀而存在的，他就是行走的30分。

[–]Grizzlies EatDeeply 575 指標 10小時前

Honestly it’s why his game reminds me of Jordan more than anybody else, and yes that includes Kobe. He is not ever being pushed into bad shots. Dude is a focused, methodical bully who just patiently gets into his spots.

Kobe had the attitude and was a midrange god, but he had to expend more athleticism and fast twitch than Kawhi or MJ, who just bodied their wing defenders.

灰熊球迷：所以老实说，比赛风格最能让我联想到乔丹的就是小卡，对，也包括科比。小卡甚至从不会让自己陷入瞎扔的局面。这家伙就是个专注且有条不紊的恶棍，总是很耐心地等待自己的出手位置出现。

[–]benson822175 175 指標 10小時前

Yeah Kobe was the opposite, took (and made) tons of tough shots instead

是啊，科比和他刚好相反，大把的不讲理出手。

[–]Nets Zach_LaVine 119 指標 9小時前

Kobe and KD are like that. Neither get to their spot like MJ or Kawhi do, but whenever any of the 4 of them take a shot, it feels like it’s going in no matter what

篮网球迷：科比和阿杜就是这样。他俩都不会像乔丹和小卡那样占到有利身位，不过他们四个不管是谁，不管啥时候出手，感觉总能进。

[–]Nets WeThePizzas 111 指標 8小時前

I feel like every shot is a good shot for KD cuz he can basically shoot over anyone you put in front of him.

篮网球迷：我感觉阿杜的每次出手都是好机会，因为不管谁在身前，他基本都是在对方头顶出手。

[–]Lakers so-cal_kid 167 指標 9小時前

I can see that. Kawhi has the same ability to overpower his defenders as Jordan did and both have the ginormous hands as well. Kobe just didn't have those physical advantages.

湖人球迷：我能理解。小卡具备和乔丹当年一样的靠力量压制防守人的能力，而且他俩都有巨掌。科比就没有他们这种身体优势。

[–]Clippers tylerjehills 142 指標 9小時前

Can you imagine Kobe with Kawhi's body?

Or...is that just Jordan?

快船球迷：要是科比有小卡的身体那会咋样？

或者说……这不就是乔丹吗？

[–]Knicks smileyfrown 120 指標 9小時前

I think it would be like A slightly bigger Jordan

尼克斯球迷：我觉得那比乔丹还要略大一号。

[–]no_stopping25 84 指標 8小時前

Kobe had a similar build as MJ he just didn’t have the massive hands and wasn’t as athletic. Might’ve been around 10 pounds lighter. Kawhi is bigger than both of them

科比的体型和乔丹很接近，他就是没那么大的手掌，而且运动能力也比不了乔丹。或许比乔丹还轻10磅左右。小卡比前两位都更大只。

[–]heej 24 指標 5小時前

MJ was definitely bigger all around tho when you look at the comparisons. Like bigger shoulders, hips, just overall frame. MJ was a fucking freak lol. Centers used to just bounce off him when he went up for dunks. I feel like he literally just had some kind of Iron Man bone density. Only Kawhi and Zion (and for some reason Rui Hachimura) give me that same feeling. LeBron's bulk seems a lot softer than Kawhis for some reason.

就整体而言，乔丹肯定是更大只的。他肩更宽，屁股更大，整个骨架都大些。乔丹就特么怪物，哈哈哈。当年那冲起来暴扣的时候，中锋只有被撞开的份。我感觉乔丹真有点钢铁侠的骨密度。只有小卡和锡安（不知为啥还有八村塁）给我造成同样的感觉。说不上为啥，总觉得老詹的庞大身躯貌似要比小卡软得多。

[–]RaptorsXelferx 32 指標 4小時前

Idk, LeBron back in Miami days looked way bigger than kawhi does today. LeBron is also older now and I assume has been slowly dropping his weight 5lbs?? every year to reduce wear on his joints over time?

What do I know though... I just watch lol

猛龙球迷：那就不好说了，迈阿密时期的老詹看着可比现在的小卡要壮多了。如今詹姆斯也老了，我猜测他慢慢减掉了5磅？？逐年减少关节的损耗？

可是我又知道个啥呢……我就一看球的，哈哈哈

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[–]Raptors slamdunk23 306 指標 12小時前

Kawhi back in MJ form for the playoffs again

猛龙球迷：小卡到了季后赛再度回归乔丹模式

[–]bayfaraway 19 指標 10小時前

That was my thought as well. Like MJ, you can’t stop him even with good defense. He can get to his spot with strength and finish over you, or fade away from you.

我也是这个感觉。像乔丹一样，你哪怕防守到位也拦不住他。他可以依靠力量和终结能力在你面前卡住身位，要不就后仰。

[–]Rockets Frostbrine 17 指標 9小時前

To be fair, he’s playing against the Nuggets

火箭球迷：有一说一，他的对手是掘金……

[–]Nets WeThePizzas 21 指標 9小時前

On a days rest after a seven game series yeah but none the less Kawhi is Kawhi. I expect him to light it up all playoffs.

篮网球迷：而且掘金大战七场过后就歇了一天，没错，可不管咋说，小卡毕竟是小卡。期待他整个季后赛都大放异彩。

[–]Grizzlies EatDeeply 179 指標 10小時前

Actually the first player who really looks like MJ when they are taking over. Deliberate, methodical and efficient.

灰熊球迷：各路球星接管比赛的场面里，他确实是头一个看起来真像乔丹的。淡定，有条理，且高效。

[–][DAL] Dirk Nowitzki constantlymat 133 指標 9小時前

The funny thing is Kawhi in his prime looks like 34-35 year old MJ and is probably currently the best player in the NBA. That just shows you how absurdly great MJ was during his first threepeat.

独行侠球迷：有意思的是，巅峰期的小卡才看起来像三十四五的乔丹，并且他或许是目前联盟最强球员。这恰恰说明第一个三连冠时期的乔丹强大到离谱。

[–]Impressive-Potato 92 指標 8小時前

Kawhi is probably not in his physical prime anymore, since he has a chronic knee problem. Athletes in their prime don't need to load manage their way to the playoffs.

小卡或许已经不在身体的巅峰期了，毕竟他的膝盖是个长期毛病。处于巅峰期的运动员是不需要在冲击季后赛的路上进行负荷管理的。

[–]softnmushy 18 指標 8小時前

While is extremely similar to MJ, he just doesn't have the same stamina. Probably due to his chronic injury issues.

If he wasn't limited, I could see him consistently scoring 40 a game on high efficiency.

尽管小卡极其类似乔丹，但他的体能就是比不上。也许是与那长期伤病有关系。

如果他不受限制的话，我觉得他可以高效率且稳定地单场贡献40分。

[–]Trail Blazers Mcfallen_5 47 指標 7小時前

which is unfortunate since he is most certainly in his prime as a basketball player.

开拓者球迷：所以很不幸啊，因为如今的他肯定是处于状态巅峰期的。

[–]Mavericks suprememontana 19 指標 5小時前

Just shows how rare a guy like LeBron is, to be such an exceptional athlete and so skilled is one thing, but to be able to do it consistently for 17 years, bearly missing games and almost never playing below his standard. Even with the advances in medical science we’ll probably never see another player with the durability of LeBron ever again, he’s just built different.

独行侠球迷：这反倒证明了詹姆斯这种人的稀有，能力卓越、技巧出众这是一码事，可他还能持续稳定17年啊，基本不缺席比赛，而且也很少大失水准。哪怕如今医学如此现今，咱们也许再也不会见到詹姆斯这么耐操的球员了，他的身体构造就是与众不同的。

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[–]Kings PabFOz 217 指標 11小時前

This is when people completely miss the point of analytics. Three pointers and layups are the most efficient shots for the AVERAGE player, but when you have guys that are killer post or mid-range jump shooters, that suddenly becomes a really good shot. And analytics agree.

国王球迷：你们完全错过了数据分析的重点。对于一般球员而言，三分和上篮是最有效的得分手段，可要是你队里拥有低位或中距离投手这种大杀器，那立马就成了一种真正有效的得分武器。数据就论证了这一点。

[–][POR] Damian Lillard mccainjames11 125 指標 11小時前

When you're shooting 80% on these shots like Kawhi, you're getting like 1.6 points per possession, if you're shooting 3's at 45%, even 50%, you're still not as efficient as Kawhi is on these shots. That's the point of analytics

开拓者球迷：如果你像小卡一样，中距离出手有80%的命中率，那你每回合能得1.6分。如果你的三分命中率是45%，哪怕是50%，得分效率还是比不上小卡。这就是数据分析想要表达的。

[–]Warriors pikindaguy 10 指標 8小時前

How sustainable is it though? If defenders are now expecting him to go for layups but will guard the mid range it's hard to imagine it'll stay 80% throughout the entire playoffs.

勇士球迷：可是这种手段能管多久呢？如果防守人预判他会上篮的同时也会紧盯他的中距离，那他就很难整个季后赛都保持80%的命中率。

[–]XY HopGuy 64 指標 8小時前

then his 3 point shot and postups become easier. thats the value of midrange.

那么他的三分和低位背身就更为容易了，这就是中距离的价值。

[–]Suns Kaderaide 9 指標 8小時前

That’s where his playmaking has to come in. If his gravity dictates that defenders need to be glued to him within like 25 feet, then on any kind of pick and roll he’ll be either able to get an easy (for him) mid range or dump it off to the roller who’s man had to stick too close to kawhi

太阳球迷：而且他的组织能力也会派上用场。如果他的引力迫使防守人在距离篮下25码以内的范围内对他实施贴身，那么任意形势的挡拆之后，他要么可以轻松中距离出手，要么就能喂球给顺下球员，因为这个人的防守人不得不跟紧小卡。

[–][LAL] Kyle Kuzma IdiotCharizard 54 指標 11小時前

The reason he's shooting it this well is that defenders are trained to give up that shot and let people get to mid-range spots rather than 3's or layups. And it works because most players don't work on their mid-range like they used to

And that's all because analytics said so. Any player right now who can get a quality mid-range look and knock it down is extremely OP in the current game, but only if they can also shoot from 3 and drive.

湖人球迷：小卡的中距离之所以能投得真准，是因为防守人在训练中就会放弃对这种出手的防守，宁愿放掉中距离也要死守三分和篮下。这都是数据所体现的。如今联盟中的任何球员，只要他能得到高质量的中距离出手机会且命中，那他就极其变态，但前提是他们也有一手三分和杀内线能力。

[–][LAC] Blake Griffin -Silky_Johnson 9 指標 10小時前

So essentially Lebron and Kawhi are going to be extra OP this playoffs because everyone is so concerned with not giving up threes or layups.

快船球迷：这就说明老詹和小卡今年季后赛会相当恐怖，因为每个防守人都在提防三分和上篮。

[–]FollowMeOutOfTheCave 34 指標 10小時前

Tbh I haven’t seen lebron hit the midrange consistently since he has put a laker uniform on. Doesn’t even look for it as a shot really, it’s more of a last ditch option

实事求是啊，自打詹姆斯加入湖人之后，我就没怎么看过他稳定命中过中距离。甚至都不会刻意追求中距离出手，更多的是一种没有办法中的办法。

[–]Spurs ImMeltingNow 15 指標 10小時前

Lebron doesn’t have nearly as consistent a 3-pt shot as Kawhi does but kawhi isn’t as good at finishing layups. Lebron also fluctuates in his midrange game compared to kawhi but it seems to consistently show up during important games somehow.

马刺球迷：詹姆斯的三分出手稳定性也不如小卡，但小卡的篮下终结能力比不上詹姆斯。詹姆斯的中距离起伏太大，不过貌似在关键比赛中总能显灵。

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[–]Clippers GermanHabsFan 100 指標 13小時前

He's a Midrange god

快船球迷：小卡就是中距离之神

[–]Suns thechemistrychef 8 指標 12小時前

I literally don't remember the last time I saw him miss a midrange

太阳球迷：我几乎不记得他上次投丢中距离是啥时候

[–][LAL] James Worthy Chevy_Nova_Forever 27 指標 11小時前

Kawhi is a perfect example of why the midrange shot should still be utilized. Kawhi and AD are feasting in the midrange and their teams are doing great.

湖人球迷：小卡是“中距离依然有用”的完美论证。小卡和戴维斯的中距离屡试不爽，他俩各自的球队也都表现不错。

[–]ShaanR12 18 指標 8小時前

KD also has always relied on midrange more than his 3.

比起三分，阿杜也一直都是更依赖中距离。

[–]Knicks JG8AB9TL11OBJ12AD13 4 指標 9小時前

It’s wild to look at kawhis career it he can win a ring with the clippers. Best player on a spurs team with hall of fame veterans, took Toronto over the hump, and chose not to team with Lebron and be the man on his own team in LA. How many players were the clear best player on three completely different championship teams? Plus never playing with another all time great(other than Tim Duncan passed his prime)? I know it’s crazy to say, but if he can do it he’s top 15 all time minimum. Maybe even top 10 when it’s all said and done

尼克斯球迷：如果小卡能随快船夺冠，那他的生涯就逆天了。在一帮名人堂老将坐阵的马刺，他曾是队内最佳，之后带领多伦多勇攀高峰，接着不与詹姆斯抱团，而是去快船打造自己的球队。在三支全然不同的冠军球队里都是显而易见的队内最强，这样的球员有几个？而且从未和历史级的球星合作过（除了巅峰期已过的邓肯）？我知道这很疯狂，但他要是今年夺冠了，至少能稳进历史前15，甚至是历史前十。

[–]Lakers Ggalaxiaking 3 指標 10小時前

Please lord, Lakers vs Clippers for Western Conference finals. Hope it surpasses all of our expectations as true fans of the game.

湖人球迷：拜托啊老天爷，让我湖和快船打西决吧。希望这轮对决能超越我们所有真球迷的期待。

[–]Yacht Club Ayushinator 48 指標 13小時前

Kawhi in the playoffs is the best player in the world. He's better than LeBron.

季后赛的小卡就是世界最强球员，他比詹姆斯厉害。

[–][DET] Stanley Johnson DetroitHooper313 15 指標 13小時前

i disagree.

活塞球迷：我不同意。

[–]pockettflip 61 指標 12小時前

Man just the fact that lebrons always the guy you’re comparing everyone to means he’s the best. Chris Bosh said it best “if you’re still wondering if he’s the best at 35, he’s the best...”

天呐，老拿詹姆斯比来比去，这其实已经说明了他是最佳。波什以前说得最好，“如果你还在怀疑35岁的詹姆斯是否是最强，那他就是最强的……”

[–]Cavaliers benelchuncho 102 指標 12小時前

We’ll see next round, can’t say anything yet. One game with my life on the line I’m still taking LeBron though.

骑士球迷：咱们下轮见分晓呗，现在啥也不好说。不过我还是会站老詹。（该评论写于昨天）

[–]Grand Floridian moneybooy 107 指標 12小時前

If i learned something, never bet against LeBron in the Playoffs. Most People here are straight up delusional.

如果说我有啥成长的话，那就是永远不要小看季后赛的詹姆斯。这里好多人已经出现错觉了。

[–]Lakers saidshewannagotoS0HO 38 指標 12小時前

Recency bias is way too peak in this sub, one game and the best player in the world changes.

Playoff LeBron > Playoff Kawhi.

湖人球迷：这里很多人都是近期偏好，一场比赛就能改变世界最佳球员的归属。

季后詹＞季后卡。

[–]Spurs greasyfunky 49 指標 12小時前

Im still salty.

马刺球迷：我还是很酸。

[–]ShaanR12 22 指標 9小時前

He was the heir to Tim Duncan man...

他本是邓肯接班人……

[–]Raptors UWhiteBelt 5 指標 7小時前

Honest question, do you feel like Kawhi playing under a Popovich-coached Spurs made him the player he is today?

猛龙球迷：诚心发问，你们觉得是波波维奇指教下的马刺成就了如今的小卡吗？

[–]Heat Doesthisevenmatter7 11 指標 7小時前

I have no doubt I can’t remember his name but their was someone on the Spurs that apparently changed Kawhi’s shot completely. I can’t say if Kawhi would have figured it out on his own, but u also can’t put value on being able to come up behind a player like Tim Duncan and having Pop as a coach especially if your someone with Kawhi’s personality.

热火球迷：我是不会怀疑的，不记得那人是谁了，但是马刺当时明显是有人帮助小卡彻底改变过投篮的。你也不好说小卡自己能不能琢磨出来，但你也不能小看邓肯这种球员和波波这种教练的影响，何况还是小卡这种性格。

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