【键盘侠】字母哥当选MVP|本就是常规赛奖项 舍他其谁？
Milwaukee’s Giannis Antetokounmpo has won his second consecutive MVP award.
NBA官方宣布，扬尼斯-阿德托昆博当选2019-20赛季常规赛MVP。
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[–]Lakers DestinySaber 171 指標 12小時前
pretends to be shocked
湖人球迷：假装很震惊的样子 (¬◡¬)
[–][MIL] Darvin Ham RecalcitrantDuck 11.0k 指標 11小時前
Horrible timing, they gotta do it before the first game of the playoffs
热火球迷：糟糕的时间点，联盟应该在季后赛首场之前揭晓的。
[–]jaytee158 4789 指標 11小時前
It also stops people saying "so and so had a great postseason run, why aren't they MVP" and misunderstanding how the award works, even if the MVP is still in the playoffs at the time.
Way worse when he's already been eliminated
这样做也能让那些说“谁谁谁季后赛打得蛮好，为啥他们不是MVP”的人闭嘴，而且也不至于让大家对奖项的评选造成误解，哪怕MVP还没被淘汰也该在季后赛之前颁奖。
更惨的是，字母哥已经被淘汰了。
[–]oozra 57 指標 10小時前
jamal murray should be mvp
贾马尔-穆雷应该当选MVP！(≖‿≖)
[–]Raptors Ting_Brennan 34 指標 10小時前
how did Dort not make all defense 1st team? /s
猛龙球迷：多特凭啥没有进最佳防守阵一阵？！
[–]Thunder GladAssociation 136 指標 12小時前
John Wall got robbed
雷霆球迷：约翰-沃尔被阴了==
[–]Lakers Triiiple_Threat 13 指標 8小時前
He didn't lose a single game.
湖人球迷：他这赛季确实是一场球都没输过
[–][MIL] Darvin Ham RecalcitrantDuck 419 指標 11小時前
If the announcement came right before the first round only the most delusional Lebron/Harden fans would take issue with it. It makes no sense to announce it after we all stop caring about the regular season and postseason narratives take over
雄鹿球迷：如果是在季后赛首轮开打之前宣布获奖人，只有那些最没谱的詹蜜和登蜜会有意见。咱们这会儿都不在乎常规赛了，都在关注季后赛，你这才宣布MVP有个啥意义啊。
[–]Aur0ra12 17 指標 7小時前
What a stupid comment -- folks voting LBJ and Harden are "delusional"? Holding a different opinion is now considered "delusional" GA is not even close to being an unanimous MVP...
多么愚蠢的评论啊——那些给詹姆斯和哈登投票的人怎么就“没谱”了？持有不同意见居然被看作是“没谱”……字母哥压根就算不算大家公认的MVP。
[–]Warriors TitillatingTrilobite 90 指標 10小時前
I really wanted Bron to get one more. Oh well.
勇士球迷：我还真挺希望老詹再拿一个MVP的，这下好了
[–]Lakers Lavaswimmer 23 指標 10小時前
He will next year don't worry
湖人球迷：甭担心，明年是他的
[–]bonjailey 206 指標 10小時前
He still has a solid 30 years left in him
他还能再打30年呢！
[–]Heat mhj0808 62 指標 9小時前
He's expected to hit his prime at 72, my sources tell me
热火球迷：我的消息源告诉我，他将在72岁达到巅峰状态
[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 207 指標 11小時前
Regardless of Giannis being in or out of the playoffs, I don't understand this timing at all. Why do this in the middle of the ECF?
雄鹿球迷：且不说字母哥这会儿是否还在季后赛里，我是真无法理解这个时间点。为啥要在东决进行的时候揭晓MVP呢？
[–]76ers T4Gx 204 指標 11小時前
Someone probably assumed the MVP (Giannis) would be in the ECF. Added media attention and fanfare to the series. "Watch the 2x League MVP live against the Celtics!"
76人球迷：大概是之前有人预测MVP这会儿还在打东决吧。这样不就能给这轮系列赛增加一些流量和噱头嘛。“聚焦2届联赛MVP对阵凯尔特人！”
[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 107 指標 11小時前
So do it before the series, or after. Or after the first round like they used to.
It seems like they just decided on this specific Friday, which is prety dumb.
雄鹿球迷：那你就在这轮系列赛之前或之后揭晓啊，要不就像以前一样，首轮打完就宣布得奖人。
貌似他们特意选择这个周五，也是蠢得可以。
[–]Trail Blazers DunderMifflinCompany 1698 指標 11小時前
Exactly. A lot of people are upset rn because their bubble favorites are not on the All NBA team or 1st all rookie team. Announce it before the playoffs to remove that recency bias from the clueless fans
开拓者球迷：就是这样。很多人感到失望，那是因为他们眼中那些复赛打得好的球员没有进最佳阵或最佳菜鸟阵一阵。以后还是在季后赛开始前宣布吧，这样就让那些脑残粉剔除近期偏好。
[–]Steph Curry InTheHouse 557 指標 10小時前
Those people are idiots
那些人就是蠢货。
[–]Trail Blazers DunderMifflinCompany 530 指標 10小時前
Yeah. I’ve seen Westbrook get a lot of slander for making the all NBA team. He played well during the season but people will only look at his bubble play and say he was trash
开拓者球迷：是的，我看到好多人都喷威少不该进最佳阵。他在常规赛打得蛮好啊，可那些人只会盯着他复赛之后的表现说他很垃圾。
[–]Raptors Ting_Brennan 109 指標 10小時前
Same with Siakam and the 2nd team
猛龙球迷：西卡进二阵也被喷得好惨。
[–]Bulls WrightwoodHiker 33 指標 10小時前
It could also be that they thought there were better guards in the regular season. It’s not like it would be slander to say Westbrook didn’t deserve to make an all-NBA team. You guys forget, but he sucked early in the season.
公牛球迷：也有可能是大家觉得常规赛还有其他表现更好的后卫没入选啊。他们说威少不配进最佳阵也不一定就是瞎喷吧，你们怕是忘了威少赛季初段打得很菜鸡吧。
[–]Celtics BScottyJ 265 指標 10小時前
People will say he's trash regardless of his regular season or bubble play because he's a superstar but not the type of player to carry an entire team to a finals win.
凯尔特人球迷：不管他常规赛或复赛表现咋样，大家都会说他很垃圾，因为他是超巨，却不能带队去总决赛赢球。
[–]Nets Ongo_Gablogian___ 97 指標 10小時前
Being the leader on a true championship contender is a lot of people's definition of a superstar, not just a good scorer.
篮网球迷：很多人对超巨的定义在于能够在真正的争冠球队中做领袖，而不仅仅是个出色的得分手。
[–]Rockets tha_dank 101 指標 9小時前
So there’s like 2 superstars in the league?
火箭球迷：照你这么说，联盟大概就俩超巨？
[–]Panda Pang 156 指標 9小時前
Yes, the term shouldn't be watered down in my opinion.
没错，我觉得这个词不能滥用。
[–]Lakers PM_Anime_Tiddy 58 指標 9小時前
I definitely think it's used too much. Realistically I'd say that the superstars would be (in no order); LeBron, Steph, KD, Harden
I'd argue that Luka, Giannis and Jokic are pretty close, too. Outside of those guys, I really think all star is the term that should be used because you aren't doing justice to the truly transcendent guys who literally change the game
湖人球迷：我真觉得这个词已经被滥用太多了。事实就是地讲，我觉得超巨（不分先后）只有：詹姆斯、库里、杜兰特和哈登。
我觉得东契奇、字母哥和约基奇也挺接近的。除了这些人，我觉得其他人还是用全明星来称呼吧，因为你确实没有打出那种可以改变比赛的说服力啊。
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[–][TOR] Lou Williams kingjevin 195 指標 12小時前
This thread is about to be a disaster lmaoo
猛龙球迷：这个帖子将会成为翻车现场，哈哈哈哈哈
[–]Grizzlies EatDeeply 37 指標 12小時前
Clippers did the extreme bro move of becoming a bigger joke than Giannis to insulate him from a full onslaught of meme energy
灰熊球迷：快船真是极品好大哥啊，牺牲自己从而让字母哥免于被集火群嘲。
[–][DEN] Nikola Jokic BigHoneySniper 194 指標 12小時前
I think most people on here realize it's a regular season award and that he 100% deserved it
掘金球迷：我觉得这里大部分人都清楚，这只是个常规赛奖项，字母哥100%实至名归。
[–]Heat abaughma44 1758 指標 12小時前
congrats to him, the speech is gonna be kinda awkward tho
热火球迷：祝贺他，不过他的获奖感言会有点尴尬
[–]Celtics Nifera_ 93 指標 12小時前
Dirk ‘07 vibes
凯尔特人球迷：有07年德克那味儿了
[–]Lakers SkateClub 47 指標 11小時前
“Thank you everyone. I am now officially requesting a trade from the Milwaukee Bucks. Good day”
湖人球迷：“感谢大家。我现在正式向密尔沃基雄鹿提出交易离队。日安！”
[–][UTA] Joe Ingles NitroXYZ 971 指標 11小時前*
Definitely will be after his disappointing playoffs performance but he was incredible this season. 30/15/6 with DPOY level defence and leading his team to a 65+ win pace.
The recency bias is a factor now in how people perceive this MVP so we also need to remember that the last game played that counted towards MVP voting was over 6 months ago.
爵士球迷：绝对会尴尬，毕竟季后赛让人大失所望，不过他这赛季的表现着实强势。30分15板6助的场均，最佳防守人级别的防守，再加上带队冲击65胜。
大家在看待MVP时难免受近期偏好影响，所以咱们得记住，MVP投票时所参照的最近一场比赛还是在6个月前。
[–][NYK] Nate Robinson TheKnicksHateMe 305 指標 11小時前
i just hadn’t paid attention to stats, so i had no idea he averaged 13.6 boards this year. that’s nutty. i knew he pulled them down but damn.
尼克斯球迷：我还真没关注过数据，所以之前完全不知道他这赛季的篮板居然有13.6个。太强了。我知道他让人失望了，可特么还是好强啊。
[–]Knicks ostrow19 283 指標 11小時前
Giannis had a similar statistical season to prime Shaq
尼克斯球迷：就数据统计而言，字母哥这赛季接近巅峰奥尼尔
[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 208 指標 10小時前
Too bad we don't have the Kobe part lol
雄鹿球迷：可惜我们没有科比，哈哈哈
[–]Warriors jcquinn8 126 指標 10小時前
I like Middleton as a 2nd option I just think you guys need a better guard than Bledsoe who did fuck all in the playoffs. Also a coach that makes better adjustments
勇士球迷：米德尔顿这个第二强点我还是蛮喜欢的，只是我觉得吧，你鹿还需要一个比布莱德索更强的后卫，毕竟他到了季后赛就拉胯。还需要一个能做出更好临场应对的主教练。
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[–]That GuyFromCanadia 5149 指標 11小時前*
It unfortunate how much the NBA has devalued their awards by announcing them so late, especially the MVP.
It used to be so hype to see who would win it and watch their acceptance speech, now noone cares about the speech and everyone makes fun of the award because of how little it actually correlates to who the best player in the league is.
The NBA needs to rethink their awards and when they announce them.
不幸的是，很多奖项都是因为联盟自己的拖延而大大贬值，尤其是MVP。
原本我是对谁拿MVP非常期待的，而且也想看他们的领奖感言，现在却没人在乎了，大家都在嘲弄这个奖项，因为它和联盟最强球员基本没啥联系。
联盟必须得重新考虑颁奖的时间点。
[–]Lakers adeelf 49 指標 10小時前
100%. The MVP is the biggest individual award in the league. It's not even about the fact that Giannis is out of the playoffs; regardless of who wins, announcing the result once we're deep in the playoffs and everyone's focus is on who will win the chip almost entirely takes away from the significance of the award.
And with the added risk of the winner being eliminated (like this year) it's situation where the MVP "story" will be a thing for maybe a day or two, and then everyone will go back to talking about the Heat/Celtics and Lakers/Nuggets. The most prestigious award the NBA has to offer becomes an after-thought.
湖人球迷：没毛病。MVP好歹是联盟最大的个人奖项。这与字母哥是否被淘汰没啥关系。不论谁拿奖，你要是等到季后赛打了很久之后再揭晓，那每个人的关注点都是谁能夺冠，MVP的风头基本被抢光了。
而且你拖得越久，那个MVP季后赛被淘汰的风险就越大（好比今年），那关于MVP“故事”的热度也就持续个一两天，接着大家又马上聊热火打绿军和湖人打掘金了。这个联盟最负盛名的奖项已沦为偶尔的饭后谈资。
[–][BOS] Marcus Smart cam_1998 1113 指標 11小時前
I’ll still take this any day over the awards show from last year.
凯尔特人球迷：你要说按照去年那样搞个颁奖典礼的话，那我宁愿现在这种尴尬的时间点。
[–]76ers wsbull_35 430 指標 11小時前
The Awards show sucks but it’s not going anywhere. NBA makes money off of it. Player receiving the award in front of the fans is a great moment, but it doesn’t bring in the same type of money (if at all).
76人球迷：那场颁奖典礼很垃圾，不过本来也玩不出花啊。NBA可以靠这个赚钱啊。球员在球迷面前领奖也是个美妙的时刻，只不过赚不了那么多钱。
[–]ThatGuyFromCanadia 77 指標 11小時前*
I have a bad feeling they are going to continue to try those shows once we get COVID under control in a season or two
That awards show is also the perfect opportunity to reformat their awards though! It gives them the perfect opportunity to announce awards that actually consider all player's full year of play, as opposed to just the regular season. It seems silly that they don't consider the playoffs for MVP and other awards when every single player/coach/GM/etc talks about how all that matters is the playoffs.
我有种不祥的预感，一旦新冠被控制住了，联盟还是会在一俩个赛季之后继续尝试那种颁奖典礼。
不过这种颁奖同样也是改革评奖机制的完美机会！他们可以借机宣布奖项评比依据球员全年表现，而不仅仅是常规赛。评选MVP和其他各种奖项时，不把季后赛表现纳入考量貌似挺蠢的，毕竟大家都在强调季后赛的重要性。
[–]76ers ptheiway 40 指標 11小時前
would be dumb to include playoffs in the awards. they'd just be playoff awards if that were the case and there wouldn't be any regular season awards.
76人球迷：把季后赛算进去才是蠢。要真这样的话，那最后就成了一个季后赛奖项，没常规赛什么事儿了。
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[–]Raptors stevntiny 309 指標 12小時前
Though the post season wasn’t too kind, their regular season was nuts. Congrats to Giannis!
猛龙球迷：尽管雄鹿的季后赛表现不行，不过常规赛还是很猛的。祝贺字母哥！
[–]76ers moby323 193 指標 10小時前*
I think maybe we were a bit too harsh on them for losing to this Heat team.
The Heat are two games away from making the finals with one playoff loss, which was a double OT game they lost by three points.
76人球迷：我觉得也许咱们对雄鹿有点过于苛刻了，毕竟他们是输给热火。
热火还有两场球就进总决赛了，而且季后赛就输了一场，那还是双加时之后就输了三分。
[–]Bucks GPG9826 18 指標 11小時前
I understand saying how it doesn’t correlate to who the best player is sometimes, but who should’ve won it over Giannis this year? He averaged 29.5, 13.6, 5.6 while only playing about 30 mins per game, and he lead the Bucks to the best record in the league.. I know I’m biased, but I feel like it’s deserved
雄鹿球迷：你们说MVP有时和联盟最佳球员毫无关系，这个我理解，可这赛季谁比字母哥更有资格当选MVP呢？他场均29.5分13.6板5.6助，而且场均出场时间仅有30分钟左右，带队的战绩也是联盟最强。我知道我有粉丝滤镜，可我觉得他理所应当。
[–][GSW] Stephen Curry BootStrapWill 13 指標 8小時前
It's obvious Giannis deserves it over anybody else. The problem is this sub has a large percentage of people who think Lebron should be given the award every year just for being Lebron even if he doesn't earn it.
勇士球迷：很显然，字母哥比其他人都更有资格当选。问题是，这个论坛有一个庞大的群体认为詹姆斯年年都该拿MVP，就因为他是詹姆斯，哪怕他表现不符也该拿。
[–]Raptors The_Unknown98 1535 指標 12小時前
Giannis is only 25 years old and has already won back to back MVPs along with a DPOTY in the same season. He did this at the same age when MJ achieved this and is now the 3rd player to accomplish this feat (Hakeem). Giannis just won MIP in 2017 and it’s crazy to see how much he has already accomplished.
猛龙球迷：字母哥才25岁，而且已经MVP两连，同时拿下DPOY。乔丹当年实现这一成就时也跟他一样大，并且字母哥也是实现这一成就的第三人。字母哥17年才拿下进步最快球员奖，看看他已经取得的成绩就会感叹他的强大。
[–][LAL] Lonzo Ball _philosopher 75 指標 12小時前
It's amazing to be sure but people would look at his post-season performance and be really disappointed. He did performed well in regular season and that needs some credit. It just that it leaves a bad aftertaste that he was playing below his average in the playoffs and yet he still gets the MVP award.
湖人球迷：字母哥肯定是很让人惊艳的，可大家关注的还是他的季后赛发挥，他确实让人失望了。常规赛的表现的确很强，这得承认。只是他在季后赛发挥有失水准的情况下依然当选MVP，这观感不好啊。
[–]Raptors catch22milo 20 指標 12小時前
Jordan hadn't had a ton of success in 87-88.
猛龙球迷：乔丹87/88赛季也不是很成功啊。
[–]NBA Lego14 157 指標 12小時前
Fortunately we have an award to reward the best finals performer.
He was leading the Bucks to a historically good season before the lock down, no one should have a bad aftertaste about him winning this award.
幸亏还有个FMVP可以奖励那个总决赛表现最好的人。
休赛前，字母哥带队成绩之出色足以载入史册，没人有资格对他拿奖说三道四。
[–]Bucks earlyslalom 292 指標 11小時前
I mean in the game he got hurt he had 19 points in 11 minutes. One thing to think about is we’re really only been serious contenders for 2 years now. The year he won MIP we snuck into the playoffs and took the Celtics that made the ECF to 7 in the first round when we were supposed to get ran over. He still has plenty of time to turn his playoff reputation around
雄鹿球迷：他受伤的那场比赛打了11分钟就得了19分。我们成为争冠球队也就这两年的事啊。他拿MIP那年我们蹭进了季后赛，首轮就和后来打到东决抢七的凯尔特人大战7场。字母哥依然有大把的时间去挽回自己的季后赛名声。
[–]Lakers DoILookUnsureToYou 55 指標 11小時前
For sure. The kid is young. Him being exposed doesn't devalue his stock that much, it just means he needs to learn more.
湖人球迷：那是当然。他还年轻。自身缺点在季后赛被暴露对他的价值并不会造成多大影响，只是说明他还得多加锤炼。
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编译：云长刮个痧