【键盘侠】沃尔复出表现强势 哈登会因此而留队吗？

[McMahon] John Wall has a total of 50 points in his first two games after a two-year layoff. The last player to do that, per @EliasSports: the Washington Wizards' Michael Jordan in 2001.

沃尔缺阵两年后复出的头两场比赛总共拿下50分，根据EliasSports统计，上一个做到这一成绩的球员是：2001年还在华盛顿的乔丹。

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[–][WAS] John Wall MagyarFoci29 617 指標 8小時前

I imagine there hasn't been that many players with a 2 year layoff

奇才球迷：我估摸着伤停两年之久的球员也没多少吧……

[–]tiagosupersplitter 254 指標 8小時前

Literally nobody else, the season suspension is the only reason he waited two whole years

基本就没其他人了，乔丹之所以等了两年之久，纯粹是因为停摆。

[–][PHI] Robert Covington sjekky 57 指標 7小時前

Plenty of players who drop to the g league or go to Europe that result in 2 year layoffs. Obviously unlikely that they'll get 50 in their first two games back, but that says more about how good Wall has been

76人球迷：很多去发展联盟和欧洲联赛的球员也会有两年的NBA空窗期。虽说不至于回归前两场拿下50分，可也足以说明沃尔之出色。

[–][POR] Rasheed Wallace FeelsGR8bb 10 指標 6小時前

Playing in the G league or Europe isn't a "layoff." They're still playing professional basketball at some level.

开拓者球迷：去发展联盟和欧洲联赛这可不算“缺阵”。他们那两年依然在打职业篮球啊。

[–][HOU] James Harden SCREWST0N[S] 1 指標 8小時前

My point was mostly that he was gone for SO DAMN long. To do what hes doing is a testament to modern medicine. 730 days without playing and he drops 22 and 28 when he's back? Its pretty crazy imo.

火箭球迷：我的重点在于，沃尔特么缺阵了这么长时间啊。他的表现说明了现代医学之强大。730天没打球，回来后居然能分别拿到22分和28分？我觉得这很扯了。

[–]Cavaliers lebron_games 242 指標 1 天前

Really nice to see Wall and Durant look similar to how they were before their injuries. Not sure if there's been some advancements in achilles injury recovery but guys in both basketball and football seem to be recovering better from it. Hopefully this becomes the norm and not the exception for achilles injuries.

骑士球迷：看到沃尔和杜兰特都恢复到近乎各自伤前水准还是挺好的。不知道是不是在跟腱伤势治疗领域有些技术进步，不过貌似篮球和足球界的球员如今都恢复得更好了。希望这成为一种常态，而不只是针对跟腱伤。

[–]Minneapolis Lakers markmyredd 75 指標 21小時前

Probably just better recovery therapies.

湖人球迷：或许只是因为更好的康复疗法。

[–]Mavericks DTX41 14 指標 10小時前

Member when ACLs were the end all of players? That was like 10 years ago. Medicine works fast relatively speaking

独行侠球迷：还记得当年十字韧带撕裂就意味着生涯报销吗？大概是十年前了。医学技术还是进步神速的。

[–]Pensarenvolver 150 指標 1 天前

maybe the key was just a long ass time without playing

或许关键恰恰在于沃尔歇得够久。

[–]Slow Crates 9 指標 6小時前

Let's not crown him the comeback player of the year just yet. Lots of players come back strong from significant time off only to get hurt again because their bodies just weren't as strong as they were before hand. He's playing great, let's just hope he stays healthy.

咱们还是先别急着给他戴什么年度最佳复出之类的高帽。很多人伤缺很久强势复出之后，结果又伤了，因为他们的身体没有之前那么耐操了。沃尔打得很好，咱们还是祈祷他健康吧。

[–]Knicks iksnet 67 指標 8小時前

Klay coming for that distinction next season

尼克斯球迷：克莱下赛季复出也会这么猛的。

[–]Lakers Mr_Alex19 20 指標 5小時前

In the first quarter.

湖人球迷：首节就拿50分==

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[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant PM-ME-YOUR-FoUrSKIN 444 指標 1 天前

John Wall. Welcome back king, fuck you to all those slanderous posts that questioned his work ethic and love for the game.

“He got his money, he doesn’t care”

湖人球迷：沃尔，欢迎回来，那些当初质疑他职业操守和对篮球的热爱的人，这下傻逼了吧。

“他钱赚到手了，不在乎了。”

[–]NBA mkz419 18 指標 22小時前

This sub absolutely shat on wall nonstop for years. So many haters lol

这个论坛这两年还真不间断地嘲讽沃尔。好多喷子，哈哈哈哈

[–]Washington Bullets PetrolPumpingRat[ ] 216 指標 1 天前

Anyone who knew anything about John knew that wasn't true. Dude is a basketball nerd who eats, sleeps, and breaths the game. He parties on the side but who cares?

子弹球迷：只要了解沃尔就知道那些喷子说的不是真的。这货就是个吃饭、睡觉和呼吸都在想着篮球的球痴。他也会出去浪，那又咋了？

[–]Mavericks Xmauler 151 指標 1 天前

Yeah he also hangs out with the hottest dudes, wears the freshest clothes, etc.

独行侠球迷：没错，他也玩着最靓的妞，穿着最闪的衫。

[–]Trynabecarti 29 指標 1 天前

Who wouldn’t with that nba money

要是你有NBA这种工资，你也会这样……

[–]_miltshake_ 158 指標 8小時前

John wall is my favorite storyline of the yr so far. I legit thought there was no chance hed be anything close to what he was before and yet he looks as good as ever. Its incredible

沃尔这个复出之路是我本赛季最喜欢的励志佳话。我一度真觉得他不可能恢复到接近伤前的水平，可他看起来一如从前。了不起啊

[–]Rockets LightSkinDarylMorey 502 指標 1 天前

Wizards gave us Wall and a FRP for Westbrook

Not bad for a rookie GM

火箭球迷：为了威少，奇才给了我火沃尔和一个首轮。

我们这菜鸟总经理不错哦。

[–]Timberwolves ColdBudLight98 57 指標 8小時前

Wizards shouldn’t of traded him

森林狼球迷：奇才就不该交易沃尔。

[–][TOR] Delon Wright DelonWright 27 指標 6小時前

Let alone for Russ lmao

猛龙球迷：何况还是为了威少，哈哈哈哈

[–][HOU] James Harden SCREWST0N[S] 23 指標 8小時前

My only question moving forward would be his durability lol, but I agree. He was one of my fav players and I was hoping for a 80% return to form as a dream scenario. He even seems better than before in some ways (his shot has improved).

火箭球迷：我对他今后唯一的担心就是耐操性，哈哈。他以前就是我最喜欢的球员之一，最理想的情况就是他恢复到80%的水准。可他现在有些方面甚至比以前更强（投篮进步了）。

[–]Rockets AlbertF1sh 189 指標 1 天前

Man is legitimately still at an all star level

Not sure if he’ll make the team due to how good everyone is but definitely playing like one

火箭球迷：他确实还处于全明星水准。

不知道他今年能不能进，因为其他人也很厉害。

[–]Hawks feignapathy 10 指標 19小時前

Ya, the point guard position is kind of stacked for All Star selection. He might not make the ASG.

老鹰球迷：是啊，全明星的控卫位置实在是人满为患。也许沃尔还进不了。

[–]Rockets monster647 171 指標 1 天前

Gonna be an HTown legend

火箭球迷：他会成为休城传奇的。

[–]Rockets Markezzy 13 指標 23小時前

He’s honestly perfect for this city honestly. Personality would fit right in.

火箭球迷：他确实和这座城市很搭。性格上很合适。

[–]EricKillMongerz 66 指標 1 天前

So Harden stays?

所以哈登要留下了？

[–]bombingwinger 69 指標 1 天前

I think he does. It’s his team after all and they look way more balanced this year. I think that you could even argue that this team can be as good as the 2018 Rockets as long as they stay healthy.

我觉得会留。这毕竟是他的球队，而且火箭这赛季均衡多了。如果他们保持健康的话，我觉得甚至可以和18年那支火箭媲美。

[–]Lakers StoneColdAM 4 指標 23小時前

Harden: “Maybe Houston ain’t so bad... isn’t that right, strippers?”

Strippers: “Harden, honey, we love you...”

Harden: “Shut up baby, I know it!”

湖人球迷：哈登：“或许休斯顿没那么差啊……对吧，舞娘？”

众舞娘：“亲爱的，我们爱你……”

哈登：“别说了小可爱，我懂！”

[–]Spurs Merpninja 137 指標 1 天前

While their ceiling is really high, I wouldn't say they could be as good as the 2018 rockets. You could argue that is the best team to not win a title, they were an all time great team that got hurt and ran into the greatest team of all time .

马刺球迷：虽说这支火箭上限确实很高，但我觉得还比不上18那支火箭。那支火箭虽说没夺冠，但在历史上都排的上号。

[–]shadracko 60 指標 23小時前

Wood is the x factor. He has shown flashes of being all star calibre. He could be a way better 3rd man than anyone on the 18 squad.

伍德是X因素。他已经展现出了全明星的苗头。他成为三当家的可能性是最大的。

[–]Rockets timmysp 35 指標 23小時前

If he's the x factor then he's got to elevate to the 2nd option. That means getting better on defense and maintaining his current scoring averages. John wall feels more like the 3rd man but idgaf if they both work their asses off every night on both ends of the floor.

火箭球迷：如果他是X因素，那他得提升到二当家的地位才行。这就意味着更强的防守，同时维持目前的进攻火力。感觉沃尔更像是三号人物，不过他俩每场比赛在攻防两端都很拼。

[–]Tampa Bay Raptors arvtovi 155 指標 1 天前

Wall and Wood could turn into one of the best trios Harden got on the Rockets.

猛龙球迷：沃尔和伍德，他俩可以成为哈登在火箭时期的最强三人组搭档。

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[–]Supersonics Zeech720 2225 指標 1 天前

He and KD have looked solid; gives me hope that Klay will come back fine.

How's Boogie looked?

超音速球迷：沃尔和阿杜看起来都还不错，让我对复出后的克莱抱有了期待。

考辛斯咋样呢？

[–][CHI] Derrick Rose ChiRoseOne 757 指標 1 天前

Not as good.

公牛球迷：不比以前了。

[–][MIA] Harold Miner paradoxofchoice 102 指標 22小時前

Likely due to suffering two other serious injuries since tearing his Achilles.

热火球迷：很可能是因为跟腱撕裂之后又遇两次重伤。

[–]Warriors las-vegas-raiders 94 指標 1 天前

He still looks slow like he did for the Warriors. He doesn't have the same lift or lateral movement anymore.

勇士球迷：感觉他还是和在我勇那会儿一样慢。他已经不具备以前那种垂直和横向移动能力了。

[–]Rockets AbedAbedAbedAbeeeed 366 指標 23小時前

I think it’s going to take him longer to get back into game shape and whatnot, but Boogie’s game has never relied on athleticism.

火箭球迷：我觉得他恢复比赛状态还得多花些时间，不过考神向来都不是依靠运动天赋打球的。

[–]blancs50 220 指標 23小時前

Unfortunately he was always a little slow laterally to begin w/, so permanent dip here could have an outsized impact on his defense playability.

可惜啊，他受伤以前的横向移动就是有点慢的，所以如今这永久性损耗应该会大大影响他的防守存在感。

[–]302born 36 指標 22小時前

He may have never relied a lot on his athleticism but a lot of boogies game was isolating on slower bigs on the perimeter. After all his injuries I don’t think he has that same capability anymore. And he’s never been a really reliable shooter. It sucks because prime boogie had potential to be one of the best bigs ever. But the injury gods said no.

他或许从来就不是依靠运动能力欺负对手的打法，可他以前很多单打都是在外线对上更慢的大个子。伤了这么多次之后，我觉得他已经不行了。而且他从来都不是稳健的投手。真操蛋，可巅峰考神是有潜力成为史上最佳内线之一的。

[–][HOU] James Harden H-TownDown 335 指標 1 天前

He’s slow, and he can’t jump. It’s way easier to defend him in the paint due to his lack of verticality.

火箭球迷：他现在很慢，也跳不起来。比起以往，现在在内线防他要容易太多了，因为他的垂直弹跳太差了。

[–]Registered to Vote ablackcloudupahead 188 指標 1 天前

I think mentally there's probably a block too that stops him from going full force.

我觉得应该还是有些心理障碍，他不敢发全力。

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[–]Rockets AntiquatedHippo 529 指標 1 天前

I don't mean to be dramatic but I would literally die for John Wall

火箭球迷：我不想小题大做，可我确实愿意为沃尔去死==

[–]Wizards Adams-Breath 142 指標 23小時前

Treat him right

奇才球迷：对他好点。

[–]Wizards happyflappypancakes 5 指標 9小時前

Hes a wizkid forever. Tbis is literally the first time ive ever rooted for another team to do well. Hope the Rockets fuck shit up.

奇才球迷：他永远是奇才的。为了他，我可以第一次支持其他球队。希望火箭干一票大的！

[–]San Diego Rockets blueberryy 123 指標 1 天前

I remember people told me Wall wouldn't be much of an upgrade on defense over Westbrook but the mere fact that he tries and pays attention to what's going on makes him a much better defender lol

火箭球迷：记得之前有人说，比起威少，沃尔不会让火箭的防守有多大提高，可事实是，他很努力很专注，防守也因此比威少强很多，哈哈哈哈

[–]Rockets splanket 12 指標 1 天前

I thought he would be an upgrade solely by taking fewer shots, but he’s actually a legit upgrade in all facets

火箭球迷：之前我觉得他唯一的优势就是出手更少，可比起威少，其实他各方面都是升级版。

[–]Wizards hoopla161 481 指標 1 天前

I miss him :(

奇才球迷：我好想他……

[–]dcballer 57 指標 1 天前

I miss him, but I am glad he's not in DC anymore. Don't want him to waste any more years here, hope gets more spotlight playing for the Rockets.

我也像他，可我为他离开华盛顿而开心。不希望他继续在奇才浪费年华了，希望去到休斯顿之后他能得到更多关注。

[–]Super 8 usmntidiot 15 指標 1 天前

Shot selection has been the only part of his game holding him back. He’ll never put up stupid efficient seasons like KD or Lebron but if he can stay above 45% from the field and stay healthy, Rockets got a steal.

他的投篮选择是目前唯一的短板。他不可能像阿杜和威少那样打出高效到变态的赛季表现，可如果他的命中率能维持在45%以上，同时保持健康，那火箭这笔交易就赚大发了。

[–]Rockets Gankgasm 10 指標 23小時前

It’s really satisfying that we seem to have won a trade despite these drama filled few months. I love Westbrook and loved watching him live before covid but man it’s nice to be a fan from afar again lol.

火箭球迷：真的好满足啊，尽管之前那几个月各种闹剧，但我火这笔交易貌似赚到了。我很爱威少，也喜欢在新冠前到现场看他打球，可是，能再度远距离欣赏威少的感觉太爽了，哈哈哈哈

[–]Wizards GVIrish 22 指標 1 天前

I hate that he got traded but I wish him the best. I'm gonna be real salty if Westbrook doesn't work out though, and Beal leaves.

奇才球迷：真烦啊，沃尔走了，可我祝福他。可要是威少在我们这不行，比尔又走了的话，那我就真酸了。

[–]Thunder moneybooy[S] 302 指標 1 天前

I'm still optimistic that your team will improve with Russ. Getting rid of Brooks is a must, without him the team will be much better

雷霆球迷：我依然相信威少能让奇才进步。当务之急是炒掉布鲁克斯，他走了，奇才就会进步很多。

[–]Lakers ragelark 118 指標 1 天前

Everywhere Russ goes, it’s always always the coach.

湖人球迷：不管威少去哪儿，看来问题总是主教练的。

[–]Wizards -0Zero0- 36 指標 23小時前

Bro he’s had like three coaches and no one blamed dantoni

奇才球迷：老弟，威少合作过三个教练，可没人怪过德安东尼啊

[–]Wizards thaw888999 19 指標 23小時前

Brooks needed to go years before Russ got here.

奇才球迷：威少来我奇才之前好几年，布鲁克斯就该走了。

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