【键盘侠】湖人力克老鹰|绝顶之人才是你湖第三巨头！

[Post Game Thread] The Los Angeles Lakers (16-6) defeat the Atlanta Hawks (10-10) 107 to 99

【赛后帖】洛杉矶湖人（16胜6负）今日以107-99力克亚特兰大老鹰（10胜10负）。

戴维斯25分，詹姆斯21分7篮板9助攻，施罗德16分3篮板3助攻，波普11分，哈雷尔19分3篮板2抢断；科林斯22分7篮板，特雷-杨25分4篮板16助攻，许尔特10分4篮板3助攻，卡佩拉16分13篮板3封盖，加里纳利6分2助攻。

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[–]Raptors Muglah 12 指標 1小時前*

Huge LeBron fan here. It must be annoying for people who casually watch him play and rarely get to see him try. It must be even more annoying for hardcore fans watching 82 games of him where he tries for only 40. I know he's old but damn, it makes regular season games so boring.

猛龙球迷：老詹铁粉在此。那些偶尔看看老詹打球但很少能看到他认真打的人肯定很不爽，可是那些整个赛季一场不落的死忠詹蜜肯定更不爽，因为老詹只有40场球会好好打。我知道他年纪大了，可这特么搞得常规赛也很无聊啊

[–]gentyent 12 指標 1小時前

Definitely a mostly quiet game for him, but he turned up big in the clutch. I feel you though

今天老詹打得肯定是不动声色的，不过他在关键时刻现身了。但是我也能理解楼上的心情。

[–]Lakers kingofgamesbrah [分數隱藏] 42 分鐘前

As a 82 game watcher, it isnt annoying really. Whats annoying is just overall team lack of effort sometimes, I'm sure LeBron's casualness sometimes rubs off on the rest of the team. The difference is we know LBJ has a couple more levels, these other guys can't really chill like that, even AD to some extent.

湖人球迷：我就是一个赛季82场比赛一场不落的啊，还真没觉得不爽。真正让我不爽的就是全队有些时候的懒散，我觉得肯定是划水的老詹感染了其他队友。区别在于咱们都清楚，老詹有托大的资本啊，但其他人真不能跟他学，甚至偶尔连戴维斯都学不来。

[–]blancs50 4 指標 1小時前

Even when he's coasting he still entertaining moments & hits tough shots or passes that remind you he's still the best player on earth.

即便是划水的时候，他仍在享受比赛，通过传球和不讲理进球来提醒你，他依然是这个星球上的最强球员。

[–]PurpleRanger777 -12 指標 2小時前

Lol LeBron with the stat padding at the end to ensure 20+ points

呵呵呵，詹姆斯最后为了得分上20+而刷数据。

[–][CLE] Dell Curry LesBianJames 6 指標 1小時前

You’re right, he should’ve missed those free throws on purpose

骑士球迷：你说得对，他就该故意罚球打铁==

[–]Lakers conwaythemachine 155 指標 2小時前

Could’ve EASILY been a 7-0 road trip if we locked in the Detroit game and didn’t have a complete blunder at the end and we lost to Philly off a Tobias game winner lol

I’ll take 5-2 on the longest road trip of the year

Obviously our late game execution needs to be worked on but that will come with more time and practice

湖人球迷：如果打活塞能多上点儿心最后时刻没瞎搞，如果打费城没有被哈里斯绝杀，那我湖这波客场本来是轻松7连胜的，哈哈哈

不过这一波本赛季最长的客场之旅拿个5胜2负我也能接受。

很显然，咱们比赛末段的执行力还有待提高，不过这也需要时间多加练习。

[–]Lakers 24/8/2 FOREVER IN OUR HEARTSPM-ME-YOUR-FoUrSKIN 100 指標 2小時前

Frank Vogel literally said he’s experimenting with lineups. He did this last year and when playoff time came he was damn near perfect with rotations and lineups.

I have no issue with him experimenting when there’s no pressure to get the best lineups

湖人球迷：沃格尔还真说过，他在试验阵容。上赛季他也这么干的，到了季后赛，他对轮换和阵容的安排那特么近乎完美。

他现在想调试出最佳阵容我完全没意见，毕竟咱也没啥压力。

[–]Lakers  MibuWolve 2 指標 2小時前

There should never be a game where KCP attempts more shots than LeBron, especially when he shoots 4/13.

That’s not a good offense. Both AD and Lebron should get 20 attempts each.

湖人球迷：波普的出手数居然比老詹还多，何况他只有13中4，这种情况在任何比赛里都不该出现。

我湖今天的进攻不能算好，戴维斯和老詹都应该出手20次。

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[–]Hawks ItssethL22 37 指標 1小時前

We hung around for a while, but when lebron turns it on it’s a scary sight, I’m convinced he doesn’t try until the 4th lol.

老鹰球迷：我们还是撑了一阵子的，不过认真的老詹太吓人了，我现在信了，他不到第四节不发力，哈哈哈哈

[–]Mavericks Raiyuk 18 指標 1小時前

Lakers' defense in the 4th and closing pretty good but man their offense is a snoozefest without Lebron.

独行侠球迷：湖人第四节防守真不错，而且末段终结也很强，不过他们这没了老詹之后的进攻真是乏善可陈。

[–]Lakers Saint-West 22 指標 1小時前

It was like that last year too tbh lmao

湖人球迷：其实就和上赛季一样，哈哈哈

[–]Lakers fernandopoejr 10 指標 1小時前

rondo showed up with playmaking in the playoffs but the whole regular season was like that 4q where it was all lebron offense

at least this year's lakers have shown in glimpses that there can be an offense even when lebron is resting. i don't know why they've regressed though. it's all mental

湖人球迷：上赛季隆多在季后赛秀了一把组织能力，可整个常规赛就像今天第四节一样，进攻全都是詹姆斯。

至少这赛季我湖在老詹歇着的时候，已经隐约展示出了进攻不断电的样子，可我也不知道他们今天咋就打回去了，精神面貌还是有问题。

[–]shanmustafa 16 指標 1小時前

LeBrons release is so much faster on the threes now

i don't think they will.. but i wouldn't be shocked if the lakers cost themselves a title with this Schroder as a starter stuff..

because it's still a lot of Bron/AD no matter what.. and that diminishes what Dennis can do cause he has the ball less, and him standing in the corner and on defense he's been good but still 6ft only.. i just don't think value wise it's the best way to use him.. if he's on fire yeah sure he should close some games

but if he was on the bench just playing with one of them really and could score more that'd be better for them..

i think they should start one of like Talen, Caruso, Wes instead really

老詹现在的三分出手比以前快了好多啊。

虽说我不觉得湖人会丢冠……不过要是他们因为施罗德坐稳首发而没能卫冕，那我觉得也很正常。因为甭管你咋安排，还是绕不开老詹和浓眉的发挥……这就弱化了施罗德的特点，毕竟他不能大量持球，只能站在底角，防守虽说还可以，可他还是只有6尺高啊……我就是觉得打首发不能使施罗德的价值最大化。没错，如果他手感火热的时候，有些比赛末段应该用他，可如果他打替补只需和詹眉之一搭档的话，那他的得分就能更多，对湖人也更有益……

我觉得湖人应该用塔克、卡鲁索和马修斯三人之一取代施罗德打首发。

[–]Warriors ElicCrapton 33 指標 1小時前

You worry too much. Vogel is not afraid to bench Schroder comes playoffs time

勇士球迷：你这是瞎操心。沃格尔到了季后赛是不怕让施罗德打替补的。

[–]Lakers BritzlBen 7 指標 1小時前

Talen and Wes are significantly worse and Schroder needs to start so somebody besides Lebron can initiate the offense.

湖人球迷：塔克和马修斯都比施罗德差不少，而且施罗德必须首发，这样才有老詹之外的第二个进攻发起点。

[–]Lakers echoecho25 6 指標 1小時前

Dennis Schroder has played elite defense all year man. His ball pressure and quickness has been one of the reasons the Lakers are number 1 in defense.

湖人球迷：施罗德这个赛季的防守一直都非常好啊。他对持球人的施压和他的速度是我湖防守高居第一的原因之一。

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[–]Lakers BeefyHamstrings 242 指標 1小時前

Take a wild guess who had the highest +/- on the lakers

湖人球迷：大胆猜猜谁是我湖队内正负值最高的

[–]Lakers adonisgawd 135 指標 1小時前 

Bald man gets paid

湖人球迷：绝顶之人有钱拿！

[–]Lakers DemFiends 112 指標 2小時前

If we win another chip, I want Caruso’s jersey in the rafters.

That is all.

湖人球迷：如果我湖再拿一个冠军，我希望能退役卡鲁索的球衣。就这些。

[–]17RealPunyParker 6 指標 1小時前

Sometimes i feel grateful to live in the same era as some of the greatest sportspeople to ever grace us with their performances.

Leo Messi, Tom Brady, ALEXANDER MICHAEL CARUSO.

有时候我会很感激生在这个时代，因为我有幸能见证同期某些史上最伟大体育人的表演。

梅西、布拉迪、亚历克斯-迈克尔-卡鲁索==

[–]Lakers thedoctor0918 59 指標 1小時前

I'm glad he's playing more now. Vogel has tightened the rotation already. Still not enough imo but it's better than before

湖人球迷：他现在出场时间更多了我就开心啊，沃格尔已经收紧轮换了。我觉得还是不够，不过有进步了

[–]Spurs tiagosupersplitter 5 指標 1小時前

He's really the third best player on the Lakers now

马刺球迷：现在的卡鲁索已经是湖人的第三巨头了

[–]Lakers mrxanadu818 [分數隱藏] 33 分鐘前

I have him slightly better than AD

湖人球迷：我甚至觉得他比戴维斯还好一点点。

[–]Lakers furry130939 25 指標 1小時前

Carushow and Dennis played really well on crunch time

湖人球迷：卡鲁秀和施罗德今天在关键时刻确实打得蛮好

[–]Lakers yungtatha 16 指標 1小時前

I think Dennis - Caruso - KCP - Bron - AD is gonna be our crunch time lineup going forward.

我觉得施罗德、卡鲁索、波普、戴维斯和詹姆斯这五人组将会是我湖在关键时刻的固定阵容。

[–]Lakers joshian22 187 指標 1小時前

Caruso is just a game changer. Every time he comes in the game the energy, hustle and defense just shifts. It’ll be interesting what other teams offer him this offseason.

湖人球迷：卡鲁索就是个左右比赛走向的人。只要他上场，全队的能量、拼劲和防守就齐活了。我倒挺想看看今年休赛期其他球队会对他有啥报价的。

[–]Lakers letdogsdrive 11 指標 1小時前*

A lot of things he does often go overlooked. An absolute steal with that contract.

湖人球迷：他在场上的很多表现常常是被忽视了，他现在这合同简直白菜价。

[–]4trackboy 65 指標 1小時前

Hope he stays a Laker. Could be an off-the-bench Derek Fisher for them. He fits so well next to Bron and AD

希望他留在湖人。他可以成为湖人板凳席上的费舍尔。他和詹眉非常搭。

[–]Lakers WearAMask2020 59 指標 1小時前

He honestly should be starting imo

湖人球迷：我觉得他其实应该打首发

[–]4trackboy 37 指標 1小時前

He's definitely good enough but his play off the bench is invaluable and he finishes the games either way

他打首发的实力肯定有，不过他打替补的价值是难以估量的，而且甭管替补还是首发他都能在比赛末段出场。

[–]Lakers motorboat_mcgee 6 指標 1小時前

That sort of player is really only useful on a championship caliber team, though. If he goes to a lottery team where they want him to do more, they’re going to be very very disappointed.

湖人球迷：不过呢，他这种球员其实也就是在冠军球队有用。如果他去了乐透球队，对方对他要求更多的话，那他们会非常非常失望的。

[–]kobmug_v2 6 指標 1小時前

Caruso has more in his bag on offense than you think.

卡鲁索的进攻技能比你想象中更多。

[–]Lakers SexyTimeDoe 2 指標 1小時前

He does turn the ball over a lot tbh. Which is fine here because he plays next to Lebron or Dennis and isn't asked to facilitate

湖人球迷：有一说一，他失误还是挺多的。这在湖人没事，因为他在詹眉身边打球，而且也不必发起进攻。

[–]Lakers Rager_YMN_6 23 指標 1小時前

Thank God Vogel cut Wes & Kieff out the rotation. Just needs to cut Harrell's minutes when we go up against bigs like Capela. I've always said Harrell doesn't fit, but he can still be a positive player for us... just not on assignments like Capela

Also, THT needs to play more and he has a bit recently, thank goodness. His slashing & playmaking is getting better, but he's also got a real good feel of the game. I see him using P&Rs more efficiently, not just runnin full speed to the rim, putting defenders in jail, keeping his eyes open to find people and he's using the right moves at the right occasions.

I didn't think he could get even better in a few weeks, but he has.

湖人球迷：谢天谢地，沃格尔终于把马修斯和莫里斯踢出轮换了。就是还得在碰到卡佩拉这种内线的时候减少哈雷尔的出场时间。我一直都觉得哈雷尔不适合我湖，不过他还是有用的……只是对付不了卡佩拉这种人。

再有，塔克需要更多的时间，他最近也确实多打了。他的切入和组织越来越好了，不过他的比赛理解力也挺好的。我看到他对挡拆的利用愈发高效了，不再只是猛冲猛打，而且拿球时也知道找队友，知道在合适的时机运用合适的技术动作。

原以为他还得要好几周才能更进一步，不过他已经做到了。

[–]Lakers DarkSoulsDarius 34 指標 1小時前

It's way too early in the season to cut anyone from rotation my guy. We had a 2 month break, let Kieff and Wes play games even if it costs us some. We're here for the long run, not just the regular season.

I do agree THT needs more minutes tho. His development is key for future seasons as well.

湖人球迷：老弟啊，现在就说要把谁谁谁踢出轮换还太早了些。咱们开赛前就歇了俩月，哪怕是被拖累也得让莫里斯和马修斯打打。咱们的目标要放长远，不要只盯着常规赛。

不过你说塔克的出场时间要提高我是同意的。他的成长对球队的未来也很重要。

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[–]Lakers jeweltribe 9 指標 1小時前

Lakers were struggling from 3 tonight, but their defense was solid. Especially during crunch time. The team still has stretches where the offense doesn't have any movement and everyone is just standing/ball watching. Kuzma has really impressed me with his improvement on defense. Overall the bench was solid. Trey Young is really crafty when it comes to drawing fouls, but he's also a great play maker. He was giving our guards problems on defense. Good game.

湖人球迷：我湖今晚的三分使不上劲儿，不过防守蛮稳。尤其是决胜时刻。不过有些时候大家在进攻的时候还是没有跑动，全都在那儿杵着看。库兹马防守端的长进确实让我刮目相看。替补席的整体发挥还可以。

吹羊造犯规真是鸡贼，不过他的组织能力也蛮强的，我们后卫防守起来很是头疼。这比赛很精彩。

[–]Lakers arinawe 4 指標 1小時前

Kuzma's passing has also been great

湖人球迷：库兹马的传球也很不错哦

[–]Warriors KingPlutoFuture 35 指標 1小時前

wtf were those last few possessions by the hawks. literally threw the game away there.

勇士球迷：老鹰最后那几个回合打个锤子啊，直接把比赛给打没了

[–]Hawks Smoove-J 43 指標 1小時前

Young team making mistakes. It's kinda expected with our team

老鹰球迷：年轻球队难免犯错嘛，意料之中。

[–]Hawks Shmexy 104 指標 1小時前

that was a fun one. Proud of our boys to hold on without deandre and bogie

老鹰球迷：比赛很好看啊，小伙子们在没有亨特和博格达诺维奇的情况下还能缠住对手，我很骄傲。

[–]Hawks Tankwagon HamlnHand 49 指標 1小時前

Cam played great defense on Lebron but some bad plays and poor coaching choices screwed us. Bruno Fernando playing 12 minutes against the Lakers should not happen. If Hunter wasn't injured I could see this game having been closer. We didn't do too bad.

老鹰球迷：雷迪什今晚对詹姆斯的防守很不错，不过今天输在有些回合的瞎打和教练的瞎指挥。费尔南多对湖人打12分钟这种事就不该发生。如果亨特没伤，我觉得这比赛没这么好交代。我们今天打得没那么差。

[–]Hawks DBac7812 28 指標 1小時前

I now think we are firmly better than our record. Not on the level of the big boys, but when we are on we're actually tough as hell. And we've been one of the least healthy teams this year.

老鹰球迷：我现在认为我们的真正实力比战绩强。虽说还没那种大佬的实力，不过我们要是进入状态了，那还是很不好惹的。而且这赛季我鹰的健康状况也是联盟中最差的那一批。

[–]Hawks WrongTetrisBlock 20 指標 1小時前

We are destined to go .500. I feel like we just rotate wins and losses every other game

老鹰球迷：我们注定是要稳定在一半胜率的。感觉就是今天赢一场，明天输一场的节奏。

[–]NBA mikesituation45 8 指標 1小時前

You guys played the Lakers, Clippers, Nets and Bucks in the last 5 games. I think the worst part of this season half is over for you guys.

你们近五场比赛的对手包括了湖人、快船、篮网和雄鹿。我觉得你们这赛季最难熬的赛程已经过去一半了。

[–]Lakers CaLiKiNG805 1 指標 33 分鐘前

Trae Young is legitimately my least favorite player to watch. His foul hunting makes the game so unenjoyable.

湖人球迷：吹羊算是我最不喜欢看的球员了。他各种造犯规真是辣眼睛。

[–]Hawks FatherJeffTeague 2 指標 1小時前

Trae can play normally if he wants to. But if a team is playing him too close like the Lakers were tonight, he’s gonna capitalize

老鹰球迷：只要他愿意，也是能正常打的。可如果对手像今晚的你湖一样逼得这么紧，那他只有借力打力咯

[–][LAL] LeBron James SoundtrackToChaos -11 指標 1小時前

Man someone needs to take the ball out of Young's hands. I get that he had 15 assists tonight but all that dribbling around while everyone just waits for the ball, that can't be good for team chemistry. Not even like he's out there directing traffic, guy just loves the ball in his hands. Is he capable of doing anything without it??

湖人球迷：老鹰真不能让吹羊这么疯狂持球。我知道他今晚拿了15个助攻，可是他常常是一个人运个没完，其他人就那么等球，这对球队的化学反应是不利的。他甚至都不是在指挥队友跑位，纯粹就是喜欢自己持球。要是他不持球，还能干点啥？

[–]Hawks ItssethL22 9 指標 1小時前

A point guard who’s the clear best player on his team shouldn’t have the ball in his hands? I’m confused

老鹰球迷：一个明显是队内最强点的控卫难道不应该控球在手吗？我蒙了。

[–]dangheckinpupperino 6 指標 1小時前

Didn’t have Hunter, really threw us off. Doesn’t help that our sole creator on the team in Trae was blitzed by the Laker guards.

Hunter usually helps when teams give too much attention to Trae. He’s not there and no one else could create a shot or could be trusted to.

亨特缺战才是我们输球的主因。 而且只剩下吹羊这仅有的一个机会创造者也是被湖人后卫疯狂针对。

一般对手重点照顾吹羊的时候，亨特是可以帮忙的。他今天不打，就没有其他人能自主创造机会了，吹羊也没有可以信任的辅攻。

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编译：云长刮个痧