【键盘侠】火箭愿为JB付出四首轮|莫雷本赛季要梭哈？
[Wojnarowski] Story posting soon: The Houston Rockets are making a renewed bid to acquire Minnesota All-Star Jimmy Butler, including four future first-round draft picks in their most recent trade offer, league sources tell ESPN.
Woj：详细报道稍后——火箭准备重新提供得到森林狼全明星吉米-巴特勒的筹码，其中包括他们未来四个首轮选秀权。
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[–]HawksAvatar8885 4774 points 7 hours ago*
2k doesnt even let you offer 1st rounders that far into the future.
老鹰球迷：2K甚至都不可能让我提供那么久以后的首轮选秀权。
[–]Lakersthereturnofjagger 1654 points 7 hours ago
That's why you turn CPU Trade Declines off and trade a Two Way G Leaguer for a superstar to live in your own reality
湖人球迷：这就是为啥要关闭交易CPU的原因了，关闭之后你可以用发展联盟的双向合同球员换来超级巨星。
[–]NBAAakamal24 2951 points 10 hours ago
Rockets: 4 First Rounders
Thibodeau: DOUBLE OR NOTHING
Rockets: .................
Thibodeau: TRIPLE OR NOTHING
火箭：四个首轮
锡伯杜：要么加倍、要么拿回你的筹码
火箭：……
锡伯杜：要么三倍、要么拿回你的筹码
[–]Trail Blazerspostbyproxy 464 points 10 hours ago
Thibs: Eric Gordon, PJ Tucker, 4 1sts, plus cash.
开拓者球迷：埃里克-戈登、PJ-塔克加四个首轮选秀权以及额外现金。
[–]Eddieft9 318 points 10 hours ago
This is probably what hell actually ask for lmaoo
这可能真是锡伯杜在谈判桌上要的筹码哦哈哈哈哈。
[–][HOU] Hakeem Olajuwonkyotofly 480 points 10 hours ago
At that point I think it’s alright with everyone if Morey hits Thibs with some Sweet Chin Music
火箭球迷：真的这么要价的话，莫雷狂殴锡伯杜应该也没什么人觉得有问题。
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[–]SunsCaldererete 2592 points 10 hours ago
They trynna Brooklyn nets themselves
太阳球迷：他们是在效仿布鲁克林篮网嘛？
[–]TimberwolvesXANNIBAL_LECTER 492 points 10 hours ago
we have no idea what the protections on this would be. for all we know its 2 firsts and then picks almost guaranteed to be seconds
森林狼球迷：我们还不知道选秀权的保护情况究竟如何呢，我觉得可能是两个首轮然后两个受保护的次轮签。
[–]Bulls91-92-93--96-97-98 469 points 10 hours ago
Probably 2 unprotected early then next 2 with protection. We know Rockets will be good now. No one knows what happens in the NBA in 3 years.
公牛球迷：也有可能是近两年的两个不受保护首轮签和后两年受保护的首轮签，我们知道火箭现在很棒，但是没人能知道NBA三年后会发生什么。
[–]Trail Blazersfrosty_bagel 1557 points 10 hours ago
This is the age old question "Would you trade 10 years of your future to win a championship right now"
开拓者球迷：这就是一个很古老的问题了：“你愿意交换十年未来来换取现在的总冠军嘛？”
[–]WizardsThe_Last_Melon14 295 points 10 hours ago
I could see both ways, but honesty if it was nearly guaranteed, I would. The only issue is the Warriors are still the Warriors, so nothing is guaranteed.
才球迷：两者均可，但是老实说如果有百分之百夺冠希望，我会毫不犹豫交易，但是目前勇士还是那支勇士，所以一切都无法保证。
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[–][DEN] Nikola JokicRedSoxEatPoop 1468 points 10 hours ago
...and they still have to go through the Warriors Nuggets so that's not even a guarantee haha
掘金球迷：他们还需要翻越勇士（不对）——是掘金这座大山，所以一切都有可能哦哈哈哈哈哈。
[–]PacersTheBoilerCat 7444 points 10 hours ago
LMAO Minnesota needs to take that right now
步行者球迷：笑死了，森林狼你还不赶紧交易？
[–][CHI] Lauri Markkanennowandlater 3491 points 10 hours ago
Doesn't even matter whose picks they are. It's 4 fucking picks.
公牛球迷：我觉得甚至都不用在意签位的具体细节，这可是四个选秀权啊！
[–][HOU] Clint CapelaJagMaster9000 2315 points 10 hours ago
Protected 1-29
火箭球迷：前29顺位保护。
[–]NBAbondom3417 693 points 10 hours ago*
And they can't be all picks, has to be at least 1 swap. You can't trade 2 consecutively, they have none owed to them, and can't trade more than 5 years out (2024).
So: 2019, 21, 23, and a swap is the most it would be.
Edit: I'm wrong, it's 7. So could trade 2025. Still totally insane.
不可能全是首轮签，而且至少有一个签位互换，而且不能交易连续两年的首轮签，而且也不能交易五年后的选秀权。
所以：2019年、2021年、2023年再加一个签位互换，最多就是这样了。
编辑：我错了，是不能交易七年后的选秀权，那再加一个2025年的，但是这还是很疯狂啊。
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[–]Raptorspleasefeedthedino 764 points 10 hours ago
Jimmy Butler was the 30th pick so this would essentially be like getting four Jimmy Butlers
猛龙球迷：吉米-巴特勒就是30顺位的啊，所以这四个选秀权就是四个吉米-巴特勒哦。
[–]attorneyatslaw 697 points 10 hours ago
If the Timberwolves have four Jimmy Butlers, KAT is going to kill someone.
如果森林狼有四个吉米-巴特勒，唐斯一定会杀了他们其中一个的。
[–]WarriorsYellowBaboon 228 points 10 hours ago*
According to cap expert Albert Nahmad: Only way to truly offer all 4, and have them all be guaranteed to convey, would be if they’re all unprotected, in 2019, 2021, 2023 and 2025.
EDIT: Apparently you can put protections but they would be limited.
勇士球迷：根据薪资专家Albert Nahmad所言：火箭能报价四个首轮并且确保森林狼能全部拿到的方法只有提供2019、2021、2023、2025四年无保护的首轮签。
编辑：当然你也可以提一些限制条件，但是限制条件有限。
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[–]Raptorshyretic 205 points 10 hours ago
This could be a Nets level mistake. Who knows how valuable those 23 and 25 picks could be.
猛龙球迷：这可能是一个篮网级别的错误，我们都知道23-25区间内的签位有多么珍贵。
[–]Bjorn2bwilde24 670 points 10 hours ago
Jimmy Butler is Jimmy Butler. But 4 1st round picks can be anything! It could even be a Jimmy Butler!
巴特勒就是巴特勒，但是四个首轮签意味着一切！甚至可能再弄一个巴特勒出来！
[–][CLE] Cedi OsmanCavsDaddy 286 points 10 hours ago
Its a lot different when Jimmy Butler is a FA this upcoming summer
骑士球迷：要知道巴特勒这个休赛期就是自由球员了哦，所以情况可大不一样。
[–][MIN] Tyus JonesBentumbo 152 points 10 hours ago
houston must think it's this year or bust, not speculating too much but wonder if they're worried with their chances riding on Harden+a one year older CP3 next year, and are trying to capitalize RIGHT NOW
idk, enough arm chair speculation for me
森林狼球迷：火箭一定觉得要么今年梭哈，要么玩蛋。我不想过度推测，但是他们一定会觉得明年哈登+更老的保罗夺冠的机会会变小，所以他们想尝试立即补强冲冠军。
不过我也不是很清楚，我就是随便揣测一下。
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[–]KnicksHokageEzio 159 points 11 hours ago
Thibs is a fucking idiot if he doesn't.
尼克斯球迷：如果锡伯杜这种报价都不接受，那他一定是个蠢货。
[–]RocketsHardenForThree 207 points 10 hours ago
Please no Rockets, don’t pull a Brooklyn Nets.
火箭球迷：火箭千万别，不要走篮网的老路啊！
[–]VenerableHate 104 points 10 hours ago
It’s not the same lol. Butler is 29, Pierce and Garnett were 36/37.
Rockets also have more talent, and you probably give up only Brandon Knight as salary in this proposal.
Re-sign Butler to a 5 year max this summer and Harden has a running mate for the rest of his prime. Then they get old and you tank right after all the picks convey.
当然不一样哈哈哈，巴特勒29岁，而皮尔斯和加内特那个时候分别是36岁和37岁了。
火箭还需要更多天赋，你们只需要付出奈特去配平薪水就好了。
重新在这个夏天以5年顶薪签下巴特勒，然后哈登继续巅峰——在几个被交易的首轮选秀权过去之后你们可以继续摆烂，稳赚不赔。
[–]KnicksPsychaz 199 points 10 hours ago
you probably aren't winning with this team as currently contructed. CP3 is only gonna decline more every year, you've gotta go all in while he's still all star caliber
尼克斯球迷：靠着当前队伍你们根本没办法夺冠，保罗只会随着年龄而实力下滑，你们需要在他依然是全明星的时候付出全部。
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[–]Knicks TankswagonLiteral_Satan 2569 points 11 hours ago
1-3 start really put the fear in morey
尼克斯球迷：1胜3负的开局确实让莫雷害怕了。
[–]KnicksThePassionOfKristaps 229 points 11 hours ago
Morey's back.
尼克斯球迷：莫雷还是那个莫雷，他回来了。
[–]Rocketshtownkilo 263 points 11 hours ago
Yeah like firing Kevin McHale after 4-7 start.
IMO Morey over reacts but I love him
火箭球迷：就像他当年炒掉凯文-麦克海尔一样，当时开局4胜7负。
尽管莫雷总是过度反应，但是我还是爱他。
[–]Lakersso-cal_kid 222 points 10 hours ago
Honestly tho D'antoni is way better for that team than McHale.
湖人球迷：老实说，德安东尼可是要比麦克海尔更适合这支球队啊。
[–]Lakerssnacktastic2 189 points 11 hours ago
rockets have got to be the dumbest team in the world if they actually do this for 1 year of butler
湖人球迷：如果火箭真的为了一年巴特勒的使用权去付出四个选秀权的话，那他们一定是世界上最愚蠢的球队了。
[–]Rocketslovetape 434 points 11 hours ago
It's the equivalent of buying a stripper a new car.
火箭球迷：这和给脱衣舞娘买新车好像没什么区别啊。
[–]Warriorswtfdaemon 336 points 10 hours ago
I feel personally attacked.
勇士球迷：感觉自己受到了冒犯。
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[–]Raptorspleasefeedthedino 153 points 11 hours ago
Jimmy wants the max and they'll give it to him. They're not viewing it as a one-year rental, they're looking at contending with the Warriors for five years.
Luxury tax will be ridiculous though.
猛龙球迷：巴特勒想要顶薪，然后火箭也会给他，火箭的目标可不是一年的租借，他们可能续约巴特勒五年一直要和勇士争冠呢。
当然奢侈税也是笔很荒唐的数字了。
[–][BKN] Mehmet OkurMisterBellic 3589 points 11 hours ago
Don't do it, Houston.
篮网球迷：篮网球迷告诉你：“千万别！”
[–]KnicksThePassionOfKristaps 2068 points 11 hours ago
Lmao trigger warning for nets fans
尼克斯球迷：篮网球迷看到这则新闻估计心都凉透了。
[–]RaptorsVinceJumpmanCarter 584 points 11 hours ago
Thibs is still gonna say no because of his stubbornness
猛龙球迷：锡伯杜很有可能因为顽固而对这笔交易说不哦。
[–]Lakersflyinbryancolangelo 359 points 11 hours ago
If Minnesota doesn’t take this then they were never serious about trading jimmy
湖人球迷：如果森林狼不接受这笔交易，那么他们就从来没打算交易巴特勒了。
[–]ThunderCaprtn 236 points 11 hours ago
Billy King is proud
雷霆球迷：比利-金一脸骄傲。
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