【键盘侠】利拉德:我是联盟最佳之一|他是联盟第二控卫?
Lillard: “I’m one of the best players in the NBA. Tell me how I’m not? That’s not pride talking. That’s facts.”
利拉德:“我是NBA最强的球员之一,你告诉我,我怎么就不是了?这不是自大的说法,这就是事实!”
“I have a chip on my shoulder for how I had to get here and where I come from, and also how I’m viewed. Sometimes I’m delusional about it. I might be wrong when I make myself think certain stuff. But it works for me. Every little thing I use as wood on the fire.”
“我对自己怎么走到现在、我来自哪里以及别人怎么看我很介意,有时我会有些妄想,思考的某事可能是错的,但这对我很有用,每一件小事都能让我燃起来!”
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[–][IND] Ron Artest TheFadedSpade 583 points 15 hours ago
Absolutely one of the best players in the league. Thing about Lillard he was underrated for the longest time but now everyone knows how good he is and he's still somehow underappreciated. Consistently gets the Blazers a playoff spot in a tough west. I like thinking about him vs Kyrie and him vs Westbrook (it's a lot closer than you might think).
步行者球迷:他绝对是联盟最佳球员之一。利拉德长期被低估,不过现在大家都知道他有多厉害了,可大家对他这种球员的珍惜仍然还不够。在竞争激烈的西部,他总能帮助开拓者打进季后赛。我喜欢拿他和欧文或者威少比较(他们之间的差距要比你们所认为的要小得多)。
[–]Raptors Simhim12 162 points 13 hours ago
I also think that Damian has steadily improved over his career, so you may say he was underrated before, which is probably true, but he also is better now then ever which explains why he gets more credit. Also, if you compare him to Kyrie and Russ, I would say that one advantage he has over those two is that he would scale better then them if he was paired with greater talent, mainly because of is incredibly potant 3 point shooting
猛龙球迷:我也觉得利拉德整个职业生涯都是在稳步提升的,所以或许你觉得他以前是被低估的,也许这没说错,不过现在的他也要强于以往任何时候,所以他才得到了更多的认可。再者,如果你拿他和欧文、威少相比,那我觉得他比起那两人的一个优势是,如果他和某个有着顶尖天赋的超巨合作,他会搭配的更好,主要是因为他具备强力的三分投射能力。
[–][IND] Ron Artest TheFadedSpade 53 points 13 hours ago
Kyrie and Dame are similar in that regard. This is why I always wanted to see Lillard and LeBron. I would say Kyrie is maybe slightly better than Lillard (he's younger too which helps,) but Lillard and Westbrook are almost tied for me. Lillard is more efficient but Russ is a better defender.
步行者球迷:就这点而言,欧文和利拉德很相似,所以我一直都希望看到利拉德和詹姆斯搭档。我觉得欧文(他也更年轻)也比利拉德强那么一点,不过我认为利拉德和威少几乎是旗鼓相当的。利拉德的效率更高,而威少的防守更好。
[–]Aaron Brownell 26 points 12 hours ago
So you're saying Kyrie is better than Westbrook? I'd disagree with that.
所以你觉得欧文比威少更厉害?我不认同。
[–]Ontain 147 points 12 hours ago
I'd say Lillard has turned into a better point guard than kyrie. I think even most teams would want Lillard than kyrie at this point.
我觉得利拉德已经转变成了一个比欧文更好的控卫。比起欧文,大多数球队这个时候都会更想得到利拉德。
[–]Kawhi LeonardWalrusRider 167 points 12 hours ago
Damian's leadership is what puts him over the edge for me.
我觉得利拉德的领导力是他的优势。
[–]Trail Blazers poonjouster 47 points 12 hours ago
Kyrie is the most overrated player I swear. He flashy and good, but his skills don't translate to wins. Those early Cavs years and these Celtics years show how empty his game is. Sure, he shows up deep in the playoffs but needed LeBron to get there in the first place.
开拓者球迷:我发誓,欧文是最被高估的球员。他球风华丽,实力强劲,但是他的技术难以转化成胜利。骑士的早期和这两年在凯尔特人说明了欧文数据上的空洞。确实,他在季后赛越往后越能表现自己,可是这首先得詹姆斯把球队带到那么远才行。
[–]Celtics thebiggestgamer 27 points 12 hours ago
I mean this year and last year they have winning records. People were just expecting 60+ wins this year from the celtics.
凯尔特人球迷:我觉得吧,这个赛季和上赛季我们的战绩还可以。大家就期待我们这个赛季能拿到60+的胜场。
[–]IguessthatsAname 28 points 12 hours ago
I'd take him over Westbrook in a heartbeat if i'm building a title winning team.
如果我要打造一支争冠球队的话,比起威少,我会立马选择利拉德。
[–]Lakers thatonedude1414 24 points 13 hours ago*
honestly he isnt that far off of curry either
Edit: never mind looked up the numbers. Curry is unreal
湖人球迷:说实话,他和库里的差距也没那么大。
编辑:看数据也没关系,库里太强了。
[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook NobodyRules 11 points 11 hours ago
He's really far from Curry, tbf most PGs are
雷霆球迷:他和库里的差距还真有那么大,讲真,大多数控卫都差库里很远。
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Nibbasbleed 35 points 13 hours ago
Honestly he is far away. Curry's numbers are just mind boggling.
湖人球迷:利拉德差库里还是很远的。库里的数据让人不敢相信。
[–]Lakers AdolescentThug 9 points 11 hours ago
I feel like Curry and Dame have extremely similar skill sets, but Curry's just better at everything except for athleticism.
Which is crazy because Dame is still a Top 15 (maybe top 11-12) player in the league imo.
湖人球迷:我觉得库里和利拉德的技能包极为相似,可是除了运动能力,库里几乎每方面都要强一些。
这很疯狂,因为我觉得利拉德仍然是联盟前15(也许是前11-12位)的球员。
[–][POR] Jusuf Nurkic Cletus_Starfish 3 points 7 hours ago
I'm a Blazers fan, but nah, he's aways off Curry IMO. He's definitely in contention for second best PG in the league, but Curry has had the #1 spot on lock for awhile now.
开拓者球迷:虽说我是个开拓者球迷,可是我觉得利拉德还差库里很多。利拉德绝对能力争联盟第二控卫,不过库里已经长时间把持联盟头号控卫的交椅了。
[–]peppermintpattymills 14 points 12 hours ago
It feels really unfair to compare the two because it implies "Curry is GOAT and Lillard is trash" cuz they're both sooooo fucking good but Curry is entirely on his own tier.
拿利拉德和库里比较太不公平了,因为这会让人觉得“库里是史上最佳,而利拉德很菜”,因为他俩都特么地很强啊,不过库里完全处在自己的级别中。
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[–]Knicks superbowlfoles2 247 points 16 hours ago
Top 15
尼克斯球迷:利拉德联盟前15的球员。
[–]76ers deck4242 20 points 15 hours ago
the man just need help, ship KD there and you got a contender!
76人球迷:他就是需要帮手,把杜兰特交易到那儿去,然后就能竞争总冠军了!
[–]Pistons joesteve128 16 points 11 hours ago
He deserves that 91 overall on 2K
活塞球迷:他在2K的能力值应该是91.
[–]Trail Blazers WiyumFC 6 points 6 hours ago
I would give him 93, I think he's better than Irving and Westbrook
开拓者球迷:我觉得是93,因为我觉得他比欧文和威少都强。
[–]Suns IssADunk 73 points 16 hours ago
He's right u know. Lillard on this Suns-team and we'd be the 6-seed.
He's that good.
太阳球迷:利拉德说的没错。他要是在我们太阳的话,那我们能排西部第六。
他就是这么厉害。
[–][PHI] Joel Embiid lardbiscuits 604 points 17 hours ago
I see he has effectively erased last season's playoffs from memory.
76人球迷:看来利拉德这是很快就忘了上赛季季后赛的那档子事儿啊。
[–]Trail Blazers 070053350 20 points 13 hours ago
He got doubled and tripled the whole series, no one else on his team could score. Did you watch the series?
开拓者球迷:他整个系列赛都被包夹,甚至三人包夹,队里没有其他人能得分。你看那轮系列赛了吗?
[–]Pelicans afriendlyspider 122 points 16 hours ago
4 games don't suddenly make him not one of the best players in the league though man
鹈鹕球迷:四场比赛不能说明他不是联盟最强球员之一啊,老哥。
[–]Playoff-B 465 points 17 hours ago
Scottie Pippen said all the best players have short memories
皮蓬说过,所有顶尖球员都很健忘。
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[–]Rockets swaggy_p 182 points 16 hours ago
Lol at the comments. What else is he supposed to say? “Nah I’m just a decent player. Definitely not the best”
火箭球迷:看看有些评论。利拉德还该怎么说呢?“不,我只是个还可以的球员。肯定不是最好的那一拨”?
[–]Thunder Splintzer 18 points 15 hours ago
False humility is just as bad as arrogance. Nothing wrong with what Dame is saying here, you guys just read too much into things.
雷霆球迷:虚伪的谦逊和傲慢一样。利拉德说的没有什么不对的,你们有些人就是过度解读了。
[–]Lakers dbadefense1990 17 points 14 hours ago
”Tell me how I’m not.”
You play in Portland, meaning the national media ignores you.
湖人球迷:“你告诉我,我怎么就不是了。”
你在波特兰打球,这就是意味着全国媒体会忽略你。
[–]Hornets HugosBrotherEnrique 45 points 12 hours ago
I'd take Lillard over every PG in the West not named Steph Curry, pretty confidently. I'd take him over every PG in the East, though it is close with Kyrie and Kemba.
黄蜂球迷:我觉得利拉德在西部比除了库里之外的每个控卫都强,很确信。我觉得他比东部每个控卫都厉害,不过和欧文、沃克的差距很小。
[–]Trail Blazers tmb16 24 points 7 hours ago
With Lillard though you likely get all 82 games. Kyrie you're looking at probably 60 something on average. People downplay Kyrie's injury history.
开拓者球迷:利拉德的话,他很可能赛季82场比赛全勤。欧文呢,他或许每个赛季平均出场60次。大家都漏掉了欧文的伤病史。
[–]Nets BucktoothedMC 53 points 13 hours ago
Hot take but Dame is the 2nd PG in the league and no one can convince me otherwise.
Curry
Dame
Westbrook
Everyone else
篮网球迷:斗胆说一句,利拉德是联盟第二强控卫,其他观点我都不听。
库里、利拉德、威少,再就是其他人。
[–]Rockets hardensoul4mvp 25 points 17 hours ago
I remember when Rose said something similar to this and then won MVP the next year.
I'll be on the watch out next year, Lillard 4 MVP.
火箭球迷:我记得当初罗斯也说过和利拉德类似的话,然后第二个赛季就拿到了MVP。
下赛季我会看着利拉德冲击MVP。
[–]sephkane 15 points 14 hours ago
Harden said he was the best player in the league, he then went on to be a perennial MVP candidate 4 out of 5 seasons, winning one so far.
哈登以前也说过他是联盟最佳球员,然后他就长期在MVP候选人之列,目前为止拿过一次MVP.
[–]Trail Blazers Portlandblazer07 7 points 17 hours ago
I hope so, it'll be hard to beat out giannis, Curry (assuming KD leaves), and harden though.
开拓者球迷:我也希望这样呢,不过想击败字母哥、库里(假设杜兰特离队)和哈登太难了。
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[–]ThrowawayGrad_ 220 points 17 hours ago
He should take a note from Curry and stop worrying about this kinda stuff.
利拉德应该学学库里,别再操心这种事了。
[–]Trail Blazers JeffVanGundyBurner 73 points 16 hours ago
Lmao this is ridiculous. He has every right to think he's one of the best. My guy is not given any media attention for leading us to the top 4 again and y'all expect him to be fine with that?
开拓者球迷:哈哈哈,你这话太荒唐了。他有权利觉得自己是最佳之一。媒体都不关注他带领我们再次进入西部前四,你们都觉得他该听之任之对吧?
[–]Raptors itsasdf 22 points 16 hours ago
I agree with you, there's nothing wrong with what he said in that quote. He is in fact one of the best players in the league. It's not like it's Tyler Ullis that's saying all of this. What's wrong with showing confidence in yourself?
猛龙球迷:我支持你,利拉德说那些没啥不好的。实际上,他就是联盟最强球员之一。又不是泰勒-尤利斯说这种话。展示自信有什么错?
[–]Knicks _stateofmind[S] 19 points 16 hours ago*
He doesn't have to take a note from anyone. Dame is, who Dame is. Let him talk his shit. And besides, he talks about a lot more in the article. It's not just about himself and his personal accolades.
It's not like he says this every day. Nothing wrong with letting people know how he truly feels.
尼克斯球迷:利拉德不需要学任何人。利拉德就是利拉德,我们聊他就好。而且除此之外,那篇文章里他还说了很多,不止是关于他自己和他的个人嘉奖的。
他又不是每天都这么说,让别人知道你的真实感受没什么不对的。
[–]Celtics ThtGuyIKnw 335 points 16 hours ago
Because Curry has the to MVPs and the Championships to validate his position in the league. It doesn't matter if someone says that there's 30 players better than him.. There's hard proof he's one of the best in the league.
Dame doesn't have that kind of backing up beyond his individual stats.
凯尔特人球迷:因为库里有MVP和那些冠军去巩固自己在联盟的地位。即便有人说联盟有30个人比他厉害,也算不得什么……毕竟他是联盟最佳之一是有强力证据的。
而利拉德除了个人数据,他没有库里那些个人成就作支撑。
[–]Warriors jaqueass 21 points 14 hours ago
Curry didn’t worry about this stuff before then, either. But his attitude is a rare one.
勇士球迷:库里以前也不在乎这种事的。不过他的态度是少有的。
[–]Gunzert 11 points 12 hours ago
To be honest he was in a bit of a different situation. 5 years ago he was what 26, entering his prime with a team on the consistent upswing.
Dames team has been stagnant for a few years and he’s a couple years older.
说实话,库里的情况有点不同。五年前,他26岁,随着一支持续提升的球队一起进入了个人巅峰期。
而利拉德的球队这几年都停滞不前,而且他现在都29了。
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