【键盘侠】里弗斯入主76人|纵有“3-1” 依然强过大多数教练？

After a rapid courtship and negotiation, Doc Rivers has reached agreement on a deal to become the next coach of the Philadelphia 76ers, sources tell ESPN.

多位消息人士透露，经过快速的追求和谈判，双方达成协议，道格-里弗斯将成为76人新任主教练。

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[–][OKC] Kendrick Perkins Kinshwicky 7586 指標 5小時前

Doc rivers is simultaneously overhated and overrated.

雷霆球迷：河文档被黑过头了，同时也被过誉了。

[–]Supersonics Zeech360 142 指標 5小時前

It's because of how quick he went from overrated to overhated. People didn't start talking about his 3-1 leads until Clippers blew it. Until that moment, everyone regarded him as a top tier coach.

超音速球迷：那是因为他从被高估到被黑过头的速度太快了。快船今年拉胯之前，大家还真没咋谈及他的3-1领先史。在那之前，人人都把他看作是顶级教头。

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid Trim_Tram 116 指標 5小時前

Nah I've thought he was overrated for a while. I think he's a solid coach, certainly better than Brown, but I wouldn't put him top tier

76人球迷：不啊，我早就觉得他名过其实了。我觉得他还可以，肯定比布朗强，但我不认为他是顶级。

[–][SAS] Manu Ginobili papa_sax 75 指標 4小時前*

I always thought it was ridiculous he was considered top 5. Pop, Carlisle, Spo, Nurse, and Stevens are easily better than him. Then you have Vogel, D'Antoni, Malone right there below them.

E : missed Kerr. Would put him in the first tier

马刺球迷：我一直都觉得把里弗斯放到前五很荒谬。波波维奇、卡莱尔、斯波尔斯特拉、纳斯和史蒂文斯明显比他强啊，后面还有沃格尔、德安东尼和马龙。

编辑：漏了科尔，他是第一档的。

[–]Pistons wolverine1819 26 指標 5小時前

I thought he was overrated when people referred to him as a top tier coach because he wasn’t that but for the sixers I think he’s the second best coach on the market

He’s also good for developing teams which the sixers sort of are

活塞球迷：之前大家说河文档是顶尖教练的时候我就觉得他被高估了，因为他并不是，不过对于76人而言，他是市场上可供选择的第二好的教练。

而且他对76人这支还在成长中的球队有好处。

[–]YoYoMoMa 1703 指標 5小時前

Either way a big upgrade over Brett Brown.

横竖都比布朗好太多。

[–][PHI] Eric Snow gustriandos 167 指標 4小時前

Brett is/was not a bad coach

76人球迷：布朗从来都不差的。

[–]76ers Kinoblau 242 指標 4小時前

It's too late man, they're rewriting history as we speak. Brett is a good coach, he just couldn't get us where we needed to go. He's not bad at all. Raptors series proved that.

76人球迷：为时已晚了，说话间人间已经改写历史了。布朗是个好教练，但他就是没法把球队带到我们想要的高度。他一点也不菜。打猛龙的那轮系列赛就证明了这一点。

[–][PHI] Eric Snow gustriandos 79 指標 4小時前

Elton brand ruined his reputation, it's a shame.

76人球迷：可惜啊，布兰德把他的名声毁了。

[–][POR] Rodney Hood HisPension 173 指標 5小時前

Tbh I still think doc is a really good coach. Good hire for the Sixers imo

开拓者球迷：说真的，我依然觉得里弗斯其实是个好教练，76人找他是蛮正确的。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook TheSunsNotYellow 80 指標 5小時前

At the very least he’s a solid regular season coach and Philly could use home court (assuming fans one day return to nba games)

雷霆球迷：再起码，他带常规赛还是蛮稳的，而且费城以后还能争取到主场优势。

[–]Supersonics Zeech360 125 指標 5小時前*

This is a GREAT hire. Don't care what people say. Now if Sixers find a way to move Horford for some playmaking and shooting, I think they may actually have a successful season next year.

超音速球迷：76人任用他很好啊。不必在乎别人咋说。如果76人能设法送走霍福德换来组织和投射型人才，我觉得他们下赛季搞不好还真能成大事。

[–]Wizards eatapenny 50 指標 5小時前

I don't know if I'd say great. It's definitely a good hire, he's been successful at multiple stops, and he's easily an improvement over Brown.

But I don't think he's the guy to get them over the hump. His best stretch as a coach came when he had 3 (arguably 4) HOFers in his starting lineup. Re-treads in coaching rarely end up being super successful

奇才球迷：76人用老李这个操作是不是很棒还不知道，但肯定是还可以的。一直以来他都是有所建树的，相比布朗，他就是补强。

但我不认为他能带领76人打出翻身仗。里弗斯执教生涯的最高光阶段还是手下有三个（也算4个）名人堂首发的时期。其他时候确实是乏善可陈。

[–]sriracha82 38 指標 5小時前

It’s a lateral hire lol Doc fixes none of their fundamental issues. He has always had problems with chemistry on his rosters, keeping stars accountable, overplaying his favorites. His Xs & Os have never been that great either and people always complained about Brett Brown’s offense.

D’Antoni would’ve been the smarter move

哈哈哈，76人这就是个对位调整。里弗斯解决不了76人的根本性问题。他执教的球队一直都存在阵容磨合问题，没法让球星担起担子，自己又喜欢过度使用亲信球员。里弗斯对攻防的调教一直都不算顶级，而大家又老是抱怨布朗的进攻体系。

76人更应该选德安东尼。

[–]Nets WellThatsNotChill 115 指標 5小時前

It’s just such a lame hire. Doc has been a head coach for 20 of the last 21 years. We know exactly what he is and what he can do. Like what is Philadelphia expecting from this hire? A championship? Fucking lol.

He’s won 1 title and only reached the finals twice. The last time being 10 years ago. He couldn’t get the Clippers into the WCF in 7 years despite having multiple amazing teams. Blew two 3-1 leads in those 7 years.

Doc’s time in the league should be over. He’s had 20 years to prove himself and the results have been fine at best.

篮网球迷：76人这操作就是很菜啊。过去21年，里弗斯做了20年主教练。他什么水平，能带成啥样，咱们清清楚楚。费城指望他能干点啥？冠军？别特么闹了，哈哈哈。

他拿过一次总冠军，就进过两次总决赛。那还是10年前的事儿了。入主快船7年，尽管各个时期都战将如云，却始终进不了西决。还两次3-1领先后作死。

老李在联盟的日子应该到头了，他有过20年的时间去证明自己，结果充其量算是还凑合。

[–]Six WayParlay 54 指標 4小時前

That’s still better than a lot of coaches. I agree with you, but 1 title, and 2 finals is still more than what most coaches have ever done.

那还是比很多教练强啊。我同意楼上的大部分观点，不过一个冠军和两次总决赛的成就依然比大多数教练厉害。

[–][PHI] James Nunnally dnzgn 8 指標 3小時前

Lob City teams were never as good as the Spurs, OKC or the Warriors and they were always injured. Suddenly, they are seen as Doc's failures because of recency bias. Even in 2015, they weren't favored against the Spurs.

76人球迷：空接之城那支快船从来就比不上马刺、雷霆和勇士，而且还一直伤病不断。就因为近期偏差，大家突然间就觉得那支快船也是老李的失败了。哪怕在2015年，他们碰上马刺也是不被看好的一方。

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[–]CIark 1866 指標 5小時前*

“All right now, come on now guys. Let’s keep trying harder. Come on now Ben, keep doing the same thing. Don’t shoot if doesn’t make you feel good inside. These analytics nerds tell me we need more shooters but you know I believe in you guys. Joel, lets not have that fourth sandwich just yet. Come on now guys we can do this. They want it more than us right now, we gotta want it more than them. Can someone get me some water I haven’t had a drink in 7 months”

“好了，得加油打了，伙计们。咱们还得加把劲儿。加油啊本，还是按照你的节奏打。如果觉得投篮让你感到不舒服，那就别投了。那帮数据憨憨还说我们需要更多的投手，可是你懂的，我信你们。乔尔啊，第四块三明治咱先别吃了哈。大家伙儿加加油，我们可以做到的。他们现在比我们更想赢，咱们必须得拿出更强的求生欲。给我口水喝，俺老李都7个月没喝水了。”

[–][CHI] Lauri Markkanen chitownbulls92 29 指標 5小時前

I read this in a hoarsey voice

公牛球迷：这玩意儿还带沙哑原声的。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rose jeric13xd 18 指標 5小時前

Good job! Good Effort!

公牛球迷：干得漂亮！很有拼劲儿！

[–]Hornets delarosa_mimosa 338 指標 5小時前

why would the sixers hire the coach who is known for not holding stars accountable when that is jo and ben's biggest issue lmao

黄蜂球迷：恩比德和本西最大的问题本来就是担不了责，76人干嘛还要找一个出了名的不能让球星挑担子的教练呢，哈哈哈哈

[–]76ers xemioz 253 指標 5小時前

why else do you think our unchanged FO wants him

76人球迷：不然你以为我们稳如泰山的管理层干嘛要找老李？

[–]UrethraFranklinz 920 指標 5小時前

Imagine actually wanting this job with this ownership and front office in the first place

摊上这么个老板和管理层，居然还真打算接手这个工作……

[–]Spurs Thehelloman0 57 指標 5小時前

Most coaches would love to have a roster with players as good as Embiid and Simmons

马刺球迷：大多数教练都愿意执教一套拥有恩比德和本西这种好球员的阵容吧

[–]Raptors stevntiny 566 指標 5小時前

I mean pay me a couple million a year I'd try it out too.

猛龙球迷：一年大几百万美金呢，换我我也得试试

[–]76ers TornadoApe 393 指標 5小時前

I woulda coached the sixers for 100K. It's a win-win. Front office gets a cheap coaching option and who knows maybe I'm a basketball savant. You just never know.

76人球迷：给我10万我就能执教76人。双赢啊。管理层捡了便宜，没准儿我还是个篮球奇才呢。不好说哦

[–]NBA jet_10 43 指標 4小時前

Start posting questions in r/NBA like "what should the Sixers lineup be? Best time to sub players? Best plays to run?" and let them work for you, EZ money

还能在论坛里发问“76人首发应该怎么排？啥时候换人？采用哪种战术最好？”让一帮键盘侠给你出谋划策，这钱好赚得很。

[–]Warriors WhenItsHalfPastFive 42 指標 5小時前

I feel like every decision the sixers have made over the last few years are to appease some imaginary shareholders, and not what's best for the actual team.

Doc is a good coach, no denying that, but they don't just need a big name coach, they need an innovative coach.

勇士球迷：我觉得吧，76人过去这些年所做的每个决定都是为了讨好某些眼高手低的股东，而不是为球队的切身利益出发。

里弗斯是个好教练，我不否认，不过76人需要的不是大人物，而是一个革新派教练。

[–]Celtics minimumhatred 10 指標 4小時前

when you look at the other top teams in the east that didn't horribly collapse - looking at you milwaukee - the coaches are brad stevens, nick nurse and erik spoelstra. all these guys are amazing coaches and if the sixers or bucks want to be at that level, they need to find someone like the guys i mentioned to coach them.

凯尔特人球迷：看看东部另外那些没有一溃千里的顶级球队——说你呢，密尔沃基——他们的教练是史蒂文斯、纳斯和斯波。这些人都很出色，如果76人和雄鹿想达到同样的水准，他们得找到那哥仨这种水平的教练。

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[–][NYK] Nate Robinson TheKnicksHateMe 690 指標 5小時前

damn, i really wanted to see D’Antoni with Simmons and Embiid. his head would’ve exploded

尼克斯球迷：擦，我本来还挺期待德安东尼联手本西和恩比德的。那家伙德安东尼肯定得炸掉。

[–][HOU] Danuel House Jr. Harden-Soul 51 指標 3小時前

I really wanted to see it because Mike's the only coach that could have gotten Simmons to shoot the ball

火箭球迷：我还真挺希望德安东尼去76人的，因为他可能是唯一一个能让西蒙斯投篮的教练。

[–]theonedeisel 88 指標 3小時前

I think D'Antoni's overall offensive mind is underrated just because of all the 3's. A lot of his plays have been adopted by other teams

我觉得德安东尼整体的进攻理念被低估了，因为大家都盯着三分了。其实他的很多战术已经被其他球队采纳了。

[–][GSW] Andre Iguodala RimRunningRagged 1846 指標 5小時前

Imagine being MDA, and thinking you've got this job locked up, then some other dude loses his job and swoops in and steals this one.

勇士球迷：想想德安东尼这会儿得啥感受啊，本来以为这份工作稳了，突然冒出个刚失业的家伙横插一杠抢了自己的饭碗。

[–]Knicks ThatInception[ ] 35 指標 5小時前

I’ll be honest, I never saw MDA fitting with the Sixers in the first place. Doc was the better choice scheme and coaching wise with the players they have on the roster

尼克斯球迷：坦白说，我一开始就不认为德安东尼适合76人。就76人现有的人员构建而言，老李更适合。

[–]Raptors LessThanCleverName 354 指標 5小時前

I would’ve been real curious what offence MDA was gonna run there and whether it was gonna happen with the roster as constructed. This seems like good news for fans that didn’t want to lose one of Simmons or Embiid.

猛龙球迷：假设德安东尼真去了76人，我还真挺好奇他会怎么调教进攻，76人这帮人能打出个啥。来了老李貌似对76人球迷来说还是个好消息，毕竟他们不想失去恩比德和西蒙斯之中的任何人。

[–]Freaky-sharkey 307 指標 5小時前

I’m sort of the opposite; their roster is a mess so I would have liked to see someone like MDA come in and do something extreme to shake things up.

Doc is a great coach but he’s not the guy to make big moves.

我倒觉得不会。76人的阵容本来就一团乱麻，我倒希望德安东尼这种人过来下猛药治沉疴。里弗斯有能力，但他就不是那种大刀阔斧的人。

[–]Rockets browndude10 45 指標 5小時前

He was going to the Pacers anyway lol

火箭球迷：哈哈哈，反正德安东尼要去步行者了。

[–]Celtics solarscopez 111 指標 5小時前

Pacers roster is a way better fit for him, TJ Warren gonna start shooting 40 3 pointers a game now.

凯尔特人球迷：步行者的阵容要好上手得多啊，沃伦以后怕是要单场狂扔40个三分了。

[–]NoMad435 26 指標 5小時前*

He should Goto pelicans, in position to take a leap to the playoffs and he fits amazing to bring the best out of lonzo for sure, holiday, and get creative with ingram and Zion(think more versatile amare stoudamjre) and redick will push another geeat year with the green light.

德帅应该去鹈鹕，趁势带队实现季后赛的突破，而且他非常适合调教鲍尔和霍乐迪，又能和莺歌、锡安这种球员擦出火花，得到开火权的雷迪克也能再猛一年。

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[–]NBA kukukele 70 指標 5小時前

Doc got a job faster than some people are getting their COVID test results

里弗斯找到新工作的速度比有些人接受新冠检测还快

[–]TerminusFox 116 指標 5小時前

Do all NBA coaches find jobs again this fast? That was quick lol

难道NBA这帮主教练找工作都这么快的吗？这也太快了吧，哈哈

[–][LAL] Magic Johnson indian_hannibal 176 指標 5小時前

It's doc. He got plenty of influence plus sixers already contacted him right after he got fired or let go

湖人球迷：人可是老李头啊。影响力在那儿，而且他刚被解雇76人就立马联系上了。

[–]Supersonics KoloHickory 130 指標 5小時前

They probably contacted him when the clippers were 3-2 against the nuggets

超音速球迷：快船3-2领先掘金的时候，或许76人就已经搭上线了……

[–]Raptors crumpledbrouhaha 495 指標 5小時前

Sixers will finally make the finals just to blow a 3-1 lead

猛龙球迷：76人总算能打进总决赛被3-1翻盘了

[–]Celtics solarscopez 407 指標 5小時前

At this point I think Sixers fans would be happy to even have a 3-1 lead in the playoffs

凯尔特人球迷：都这田地了，哪怕只是季后赛3-1领先，我觉得76人球迷也是开心的

[–]76ers alexcastylicious 289 指標 5小時前

This is correct.

76人球迷：没毛病

[–]76ers matthewdavis1432 20 指標 5小時前

Considering we’re coming off getting swept in the first round, losing in 7 in the Finals is fine with us.

76人球迷：毕竟我们刚从一轮游缓过劲儿来，总决赛7场被干也挺好。

[–]76ers Phillyfreak5 33 指標 5小時前

Not particularly. I’m more concerned with how our Front office is going to trade away Matisse and our youngins

76人球迷：那倒不一定哦。我更担心管理层会怎么送走塞布尔和那些年轻人。

[–]76ers fightonphilly 12 指標 5小時前

For who though? They have no space. They can't make moves unless they move on of the big contracts.I don't wanna see the dude go, but it really depends on what comes back.

I do agree though that any move made by this incredibly incompetent FO is probably going to be questionable.

76人球迷：换谁呢？他们又不占用空间。除非能甩掉那些大合同，不然就不该瞎操作。我也不想让塞布尔离开啊，不过这真得看报酬是啥。

不过我同意的是，这个极其失职的管理层不管做啥都会受到质疑。

[–]ToastSandwichSucks 43 指標 5小時前

if he takes the sixers to the finals we can blame the clippers organization with our lazy hot takes right?

如果老李带领76人打进总决赛了，那咱们就能随便甩锅给快船管理层了对不？

[–]seavictory 17 指標 4小時前

Nah, we'll blame Paul George for everything, whether he deserves it or not.

不，所有屎盆子都往乔治头上扣，甭管他冤不冤。

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